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Čovjek S Tisuću Mana by Josipa Lisac
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Čovjek S Tisuću Mana
By Josipa Lisac
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Written by John Hurley, Ronnie Wilkins
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Created work
Written by Ivica Krajač
- Language
- Croatian
- Additional credits
- Josipa Lisac
- Release
- Josipa Lisac & B. P. Convention Big Band International
Josipa Lisac & B. P. Convention Big Band International
- Release date
- 1976
- Label
- Jugoton
- Catalog number
- LSY-63038
- Format
- Album 12" LP
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Čovjek S Tisuću Mana · Josipa Lisac · B. P. Convention Big Band
Antologija Josipe Lisac
℗ Croatia Records
Released on: 2012-02-01
Author: Hurley
Arranger: Ozren Depolo
Composer: Wilkins
Hm, there seem to be no Lisac authoring credits. The labels for the song show an additional one for Depolo = Itren Depolo, a member of the B. P. Convention Big Band - who, btw., are the co-recording artists of the album (and track) - but that credit might as well go for the arrangement.
The Croatian ZAMP shows no according results, neither for the Croatian title nor in the lists of registered works by Depolo, Lisac or Ivica Krajač (who is generally credited on the labels for 'prepjevi', as far as understand meaning '(he) sings', not 'songs' or 'words'.
Another one for [unknown]? Sometimes [undefined] would actually fit better...
Not good enough?
Lyrics By [Croatian] – Ivica Krajač
Arranged By – Krešimir Oblak (tracks: A1, B5), Miljenko Prohaska (tracks: A4, B1 to B3), Ozren Depolo (tracks: A2, A3, A5, B4)
https://www.discogs.com/Josipa-Lisac-B-P-Convention-Big-Band-International-Josip…
Nema, Krajač is (quoting myself) "generally credited on the labels for 'prepjevi', as far as I understand meaning '(he) sings', not 'songs' or 'words'". My ex-wife spontanously said ah, he is the singer - which surely doesn't fit...
Nevertheless, it doesn't seem unlikely to me that Krajač did the translations. There is just no hard enough evidence. But Lisac herself can most likely be excluded. Can't she?
Last updated by camembert electrique on 2021-01-20 05:37:19 UTC - Show original message
I know nothing of this artist, which is both a blessing and a curse. My findings are pure analysis based on the evidence; on the other hand, I have no context or history outside of what I can find.
I almost always defer to the editors on which adaption/translators absent strong enough evidence to support an "are we sure" (e.g.):
https://secondhandsongs.com/error-report/42329
https://secondhandsongs.com/error-report/42412
I'd say I'm correct to at least raise the question over 90% of the time, and provide correct info over 50%.
The Discogs entry seems clear enough to me -Lyrics by (Croatian).
Mitwirkende
Arranged By – Krešimir Oblak (tracks: A1, B5), Miljenko Prohaska (tracks: A4, B1 to B3), Ozren Depolo (tracks: A2, A3, A5, B4)
Conductor – Miljenko Prohaska
Design – I. Ivezić*, Karlo Metikoš
'Lyrics By [Croatian] – Ivica Krajač'
Performer [Musician] – Albert Mangelsdorff, Ante Živković, Art Farmer, Boško Petrović, Clark Terry, Damir Dičić, Ernie Wilkins, Gianni Basso, Ivan Kuzmić, Josip Stojanović, Karlo Takač, Ladislav Fidry*, Marcel Fuchs, Marjan Domić*, Mario Mavrin, Ozren Depolo, Salih Sadiković, Vladimir Sverak, Zlatko Dvoržak
The label does credit (Ozren) Depolo under the individual songs but he is credited above as arranger.
So, in the end everything as basically supposed.
I reckon crediting Lisac for the lyrics was simply a copy/paste mistake, similar to my typo Idren instead of Ozren Depolo...
I dunno CE. I'm advised "xxx' is just an arranger, producer, etc, all the time by reviewing editors, regardless of what's printed on a label or represented on some source.