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abbamatic

On August 10, 2006

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Labelle

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Labelle


Using the same logic that required us to separate "Patti LaBelle & The Bluebelles" as an artist from "Patti LaBelle", we also need to separate the group "Labelle" (which included Sarah Dash and Nona Hendryx) from "Patti LaBelle".


I've input a Patti LaBelle/Elton John duet, but when I did a related artist connection with Patti LaBelle, it shows up as "Labelle" - which in this case would be incorrect.


Patti's the lead singer in both groups, but they aren't synonymous...

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Comment by Bastien
2007-02-24 14:15:15 UTC

So Labelle is not an alias for Patti Labelle? And Labelle is also not a alias for "Patti Labelle and the Bluebells"?

 
Comment by abbamatic
submitter
2007-02-24 21:10:38 UTC

Patti Labelle and the Bluebelles and Labelle are groups - that I think can be aligned under one name. Patti Labelle is a solo artist.


Here is the history:


--Patti Labelle & the Bluebelles formed in 1962 from 4 women: Patti Labelle, Cindy Birdsong, Nona Hendryx, and Sarah Dash. Patti Labelle was the lead singer, most certainly - but Nona wrote songs


--in 1967, Cindy Birdsong left to replace Florence Ballard in the Supremes, leaving Patti Labelle & The Bluebelles as a trio.


--by 1970, the group, having not had much recent success, renamed themselves Labelle and changed musical directions, although keeping the same three original members. At this point though, Nona Hendryx began writing many more of the songs. Although Patti continued to be lead vocalist, all three often had their turns at the mike. The group was known for its harmonies, not just Patti.


--by 1977, the trio disbanded, each member embarking on a solo career. Of the three members, Patti's career has been most successful, but all three members have continued to have solo careers - I've input works for Nona Hendryx and for Sarah Dash individually.


I believe that it would be accurate to link the Bluebelles era with the Labelle era - despite musical differences and name differences, it is essentially the same group minus one member.


But it is inaccurate to link Patti's solo career with the group. Nona Hendryx and Sarah Dash were certainly "members of" Labelle - but they are not members of Patti Labelle.


Much the same way that we list Debbie Harry as an individual artist and not as an alias for Blondie - or that we separate Diana Ross from Diana Ross & The Supremes, I think they should be separated.


I suppose the question would then be: which of the two group names should take precedence? they were Bluebelles longer and first...but by far their biggest hit (Lady Marmalade) and more records total came while they were Labelle - and that is the most recent memory...I guess I would go with Labelle, but there is a case to be made for both directions...


Can you tell I've studied/been a fan of this group for a couple decades? :-)


 
Comment by Bastien
2008-01-06 20:35:37 UTC

So I suppose the follwing makes no sense now:


Patti LaBelle and the Bluebelles


Joint performances of The Bluebelles, Labelle


Instead "Patty Labelle and the Bluebells" should be an alias of "Labelle", right?

 
Comment by abbamatic
submitter
2008-01-07 04:05:19 UTC

yes, that's probably what i would do. really was the same group with one person subtracted for 'labelle'.

 
Comment by Bastien
2011-04-04 20:11:09 UTC

Is it ok now?

 
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