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Sea of Love (wally creek)
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On March 19, 2012
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Thanks for the additional info. Unfortunately, the conclusion is still "unreleased" until the 1970s. Here's the 45 record I used as a source:
http://www.45cat.com/record/446
I never noticed before but it looks like they did everything they could to not pay royalties, with the band name change and songwriter name misspellings.
No trace of any 1950s record found at all. The label they were on (Khoury's) has a known discography. They did back other (mostly female) vocalists, but that is Cookie Thierry on the soundclips that are available of "Sea of Love". They recorded in 1955 as The Boogie Ramblers with two 45s only.
Listening to the recording it does not sound remixed and would guess it was the original recording.The remix did not change the overall sound. If you find some sound clips online, you will hear very shrill and loud saxophones on some of them, among other things. The remix is where the saxophones are toned down; it is obviously the same version.
Both the liner notes on the LP and the book by John Broven 'South to Louisiana' indicate that Cookies version of Sea of Love was released in the 50's.That would mean the latter half of 1959; kind of odd to say "50s", unless they mean to imply C&C was the original? That makes no sense. Phil Phillips wrote it as a non-professional, label owner George Khoury controlled it. Or perhaps are they confusing the fact that the band backing Phil Phillips was apparently Cookie and His Cupcakes? Compare the arrangement and the overall sound of the backing bands in each if you like.
FWIW http://www.jarlvik.se/skivor/company.php?companyID=2187 has a 1963 date. Whether that is supposed to be a recording date or release date, I don't know. But again no release was found even from this time.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/wdd/jin.htm
Jin 9003 dates to somewhere between 1971 and 1974. We're closer, but the database requires an exact year.
It's an interesting conundrum; the sleeve notes to the Jin 9003 LP says 'Through his Khoury and Lyric labels he produced the original hit records .....Sea of Love...featuring one of the hottest groops of the time Cookie and the Cupcakes'it goes on to say 'the recordings were never before released on a long play album'.
The John Broven book says 'The Cupcakes slew of releases included highly personalized versions of Breakin up is hard to do and Sea Of Love'
Probably not much help but who knows.
I have both versions and the backing tracks are remarkably similar.
You don't list the 1988 version by Katie Webster which I have on LP Alligator AL 4766.
Just to confuse things Katie Webster also recorded with Cookie and the Cupcakes.
Cookies real name is Huey Thierry.
Hope this helps
I have just posted details of the 1959 recording of Sea of Love by Katie Webster on Decca 30945, Katie apparently was also the pianist on Phil Philips recording.
I think that the Paula 45 listed as being by Cookie and his Berry Cups is in error. Apparently the Berry Cups were a different band to the Cup Cakes and it was the Cup Cakes who recorded Sea Of Love.
This could go on forever.
I have just got hold of the Ace CD compilation of Cookie and the Cup Cakes and that lists Sea Of Love as being released in 1963 on Lyric 1017.
Bastien, I spend more than 1 hour searching on different sites if Cookie & Cup Cakes released an earlier versioin, but I haven't been able to find one. Wally Creek had the same problem. I think this is just one of those "hard cases"
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I don't know about the release, but the recording seems to predate 1965:
Goldband, Judd, Khourys, Recordings 1956 - 1964
https://www.discogs.com/Cookie-And-The-Cupcakes-Kings-Of-Swamp-Pop/release/51816…
"King of Swamp Pop" has it wrong: Lyric 1017 is a different single:
