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Die in Your Arms (Bastien)

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Die in Your Arms


Mr B, I have much trouble with calling this an adaptation.

There is no resemblance in both vocal melody lines.


In my opinion it's an interpolation throughout.


On the (rotating) home page, it even says "covered by" which is totally not the case.


Same with Pitbull, he does NOT cover A-ha, he interpolates.

History

Change by shs
2016-03-09 00:00:00 UTC
Conversion from forum topic to error report
 
Comment by sebcat
2016-12-28 01:14:20 UTC

Still pending?

 
Comment by sebcat
2017-01-18 01:36:45 UTC

Walt

I've uploaded the ASCAP and ISWC refs so you can see how the song is copyrighted. The original authors are listed. Does that help - or just confuse things?

Sebastian

 
Comment by walt
submitter
2017-01-18 15:24:36 UTC

I hold my case, no doubt about it. It samples/interpolates the original ONLY, to be more exact: its intro. The credits are there for this sample of course.


As an example, if you hold it against the Sugar Minnott version there's nothing similar anymore.

 
Comment by sebcat
2017-01-18 23:49:08 UTC

Maybe we should treat as a sample? Bastien is still working out the best way of dealing with samples through the new copyright database system, however.

 
Comment by Bastien
2017-01-28 14:44:53 UTC

This is pending until the cover relation upgrade.

 
Comment by sebcat
2017-01-28 20:11:15 UTC

This is pending until the cover relation upgrade.

Mathieu says that he has fixed the sample relation issue now Smile I've not tried it yet myself.

 
Comment by Bastien
2017-01-29 19:15:57 UTC

No, it's not a simple fix, we have to re-factor the objects.

 
Comment by sebcat
2017-01-30 20:01:27 UTC

No, it's not a simple fix, we have to re-factor the objects.

Exactly - at the moment samples are linked to a performance rather than the work. Clearly where they are included in the copyright databases we need to find a way to link them to the work.

Last updated by sebcat on 2017-01-30 20:10:10 UTC - Show original message

 
Change by sebcat
2017-01-30 20:10:10 UTC

Description: Show

 
Comment by sebcat
2017-03-09 08:22:43 UTC

Mathieu has fixed this now. I've tried it a few times and it works like a dream. Give it a try Smile

 
Change by walt
submitter
2017-03-09 12:30:04 UTC
Assignee: Bastien walt
 
Comment by walt
submitter
2017-03-09 12:35:47 UTC

The fix is about authorship, I have no comment on that.


Still, it feels not right to see DIYA en WGAGTG listed on the same page!

In my opinion, the connection should be treated as a sample (whether it is replayed or not).

 
Comment by sebcat
2017-03-09 21:05:54 UTC

Walt

I agree with you.

I do think that now that Mathieu has fixed how to validate authorship for works that involve a sample, it will make this easier.

Sebastian

 
Comment by sebcat
2018-08-12 09:33:33 UTC

Looks like we need to do things to sort this long-standing error report:

1. Change the adaptation relation to "sample". This will sort out the visualisation point that Walt was complaining about.

2. Add a performance-performance sample relation too. Not sure why this wasn't added at the time of the original entry.

Do you agree?

 
Comment by walt
submitter
2018-09-08 14:47:58 UTC

Isn't this Bastien's?

 
Change by walt
submitter
2018-09-08 14:48:26 UTC

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Change by walt
submitter
2018-09-08 14:48:26 UTC
Assignee: walt Bastien
 
Comment by sebcat
2018-09-08 15:00:26 UTC

Yes! I wasn't sure why you took ownership on March 9 last year Smile

 
Comment by Bastien
2018-09-13 20:19:31 UTC

Updated

 
Change by Bastien
2018-09-13 20:19:33 UTC
Status: open processed