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Same melodies, differents writters, plagiat or no ????
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They all use the melody from Sobre las olas (aka "Over the Waves"). In fact, "The Loveliest Night of the Year" is already on SHS: The Loveliest Night of the Year.
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The original work is in the public domain. As such, anybody can make a slight change to it, and claim copyright for the new version.
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Did a bit more digging on "Oh Oh What A Kiss". It seems that itself was an adaptation of a song called "Jardin l'amour" by Gerard Madiata: https://www.discogs.com/Gerard-Madiata-Jardin-DAmour/release/7024833
Can't find a recording of that unfortunately.
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Found enough evidence to conclude that Stranger and Panken probably weren't involved with the English release, so Oh, Oh, What a Kiss has now been added. I'll hold off on adding the Will Andy version so you can submit that if you want
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My belgian hitbook shows the following chart entries:
Will Andy (real name: Will Vansteene) - first week of June, peak: 7 in August (W.B. Sound 10.005)
Micky Day - last week of June, peak: 4 in August (Candle CD 245)
https://www.discogs.com/Will-Andy-Oh-Oh-What-A-Kiss-My-Love/release/2189757
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Did a bit more digging on "Oh Oh What A Kiss". It seems that itself was an adaptation of a song called "Jardin l'amour" by Gerard Madiata: https://www.discogs.com/Gerard-Madiata-Jardin-DAmour/release/7024833
Can't find a recording of that unfortunately.
Indeed, George Panken & Harry Stranger wrote or arranged "Jardin d'amour", but why do you think it's the same song?
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Did a bit more digging on "Oh Oh What A Kiss". It seems that itself was an adaptation of a song called "Jardin l'amour" by Gerard Madiata: https://www.discogs.com/Gerard-Madiata-Jardin-DAmour/release/7024833
Can't find a recording of that unfortunately.
Indeed, George Panken & Harry Stranger wrote or arranged "Jardin d'amour", but why do you think it's the same song?
In GEMA, "Oh What a Kiss" is listed as an alternate title for "Jardin l'amour", which has the same credits as on the label for "Oh Oh What a Kiss" (complete with the correct composer credit) - Panken and Blox as authors, Rosas as composer and Stranger as the arranger.
Further searching in SABAM (the PRO for Belgium) brings up two songs with "Jardin l'amour" listed as an alternate title:
"Ce petit chemin" - "dp" (Public Domain) for composer, Panken for author and Stranger for arranger.
"Oh Oh What a Kiss" - same credits as for GEMA's "Jardin l'amour". "Ce petit chemin" is listed as an alternate title for this as well
In addition, the publishing credit for both songs is "Rainbow Uitgave - the", and "Jardin l'amour" was released on the Rainbow label.
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My belgian hitbook shows the following chart entries:
Will Andy (real name: Will Vansteene) - first week of June, peak: 7 in August (W.B. Sound 10.005)
Micky Day - last week of June, peak: 4 in August (Candle CD 245)
https://www.discogs.com/Will-Andy-Oh-Oh-What-A-Kiss-My-Love/release/2189757
I only remembered (and thus entered!) Oh, Oh What a Kiss by Will Andy, which was a Top Ten hit in Holland in 1966 combined with the version by Micky Day, whose real name is Désiré Deldicque and later became a right-wing politician in Brussels..........
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I'm actually not sure which of the two hit versions came first. I did enter Micky Day's as the original initially as he had a bigger hit with it, but ultratop.be says that Will Andy's version entered the chart in Flanders three weeks before Day's did...
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In cases like this Baggish (Jon) has taught me to leave the first releaes button untouched in case you have no harder release data than the release year...............
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In cases like this Baggish (Jon) has taught me to leave the first releaes button untouched in case you have no harder release data than the release year...............
Pretty sure Will Andy was first. Not only he had an advantage by three weeks in the charts, his single was on W.B. Sound, the initials very likely refering to the author Willy Blox.
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Pretty sure Will Andy was first. Not only he had an advantage by three weeks in the charts, his single was on W.B. Sound, the initials very likely refering to the author Willy Blox.
Brilliant idea, Walt: I checked the various releases on the W.B. Sound label in Discogs and 45cat and most of the times the works on the single releases were (co-)written by Willy Blox.................
So he must be the founder and owner of W.B. Sound.
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Toi que j'attends has now been added as well
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On a related note, I found a version of the original song (under that title) with lyrics...
The earliest release I can track that to is an EP, but Discogs has no release date for it and there are no additional credits besides Rosas.