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DashBoardDJ856

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DashBoardDJ856 @ 2019-03-01 14:29:15 UTC

I got this error report from jojo https://secondhandsongs.com/case/104285

In my opinion these adaptations of songs are getting out of hand. Soon there are only going to be 100 original songs and everything else is going to be an adaptation of them.


Anyway, I have the obligation to thrust this song out in the open for discussion. But what's next I've Grown Accustomed to Her/Him/YourFace should be an adaptation?


BTW I'm not making this an adaptation, so if anyone wants to make it one, I will gladly reassign it to you.

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JeffC

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JeffC @ 2019-03-01 16:59:07 UTC

I think Jojo's right. The original is really quite different from the more common performance version.

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DashBoardDJ856

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DashBoardDJ856 @ 2019-03-01 18:29:52 UTC

I add a lot of jazz covers, so for me when I hear jazz, the notes are lyrics. From my perspective, every cover the artist interprets his ideas of the song. Every cover of every song is not note for note.

The same for something with lyrics. If you add a sentence or a word here or there, I'm not sure what the big deal is?

Take for instance My One and Only Love

Now we can't use that song for instrumentals, we have to credit the cover to the adaptation to Music from Beyond the Moon

Yet under My One and Only Love sits about 50 or more covers of the song. Do we not somehow have to transfer those songs to the adaptation??

There are plenty more songs like that.

In my opinion, the adaptations are getting out of hand. What makes a cover not a cover?


Part 2 - Why isn't jojo an editor?

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walt

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walt @ 2019-03-04 10:24:12 UTC

On the Bacharach song, I'm inclined to follow Dashboard.


There are a few lines rewritten by the same author(s), so IMO not worthy of an adaptation (almost same case as the Midnight Planetrain from Georgiaston, we recently de-adaptationized).


You should add a brief comment in the work though and maybe with the first two versions.


Your other remarks should be best adressed elsewhere. Smile

jojo

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jojo @ 2019-03-23 12:34:38 UTC

This guy can live with the current setup.


And Wayne, I am already an editor on my own site Smile


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livro.nuvem

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livro.nuvem @ 2023-07-29 06:45:14 UTC

I realize there is some gray area here, but one strong argument for designating something and adaptation is if the title itself changes. Another argument for adaptation is whether lyric re-writes change the entire orientation or narrative of the song.


So, for example, Peggy Lee's extra verses for "Fever", despite being a quite substantial addition to the original Little Willie John lyric, don't significantly change the meaning of the song, and the title remained the same--it's an embellishment of the original, not a re-write.


"This Guy's in Love with You" actually is a re-write. The genre of the lyric switches from breakup song to courtship song--every bit as different as a mystery novel is from a romance novel. People nerdy enough to be reading about the song on Secondhand Songs are going to find that shift quite interesting and noteworthy. The analogy to instrumental versions of jazz tunes with variations by subsequent performers seems to really miss the mark--song lyrics function quite differently from the head and chord changes of a jazz instrumental. Doing an overhaul of a song lyric is akin to Charlie Parker composing a new melody for I Got Rhythm and titling it "Moose the Mooche"--it's easy to hear the connection to the original, but the song has been transformed.