Blue Monday [Swedish] by Sten Nilsson

Observations made during my review process:

Blue Monday

Sten Nilsson

The same recording appears to have been released on:

https://www.discogs.com/Sten-Nilsson-Sten-Nilsson/release/5590317

https://www.discogs.com/Sten-Nilsson-StenStanley-P%C3%A5-G%C3%A5ng-2/release/509…

..., but with different translators?

Monica Forsberg

Bo Rehnberg

Capturing observations in this thread, but others are free to take from here....

Related Single:

http://www.45cat.com/record/sas105

Last edit: 2021-04-19 19:55:19 UTC by Tar Heel

Might as well tack on the release below (also under review):

https://music.apple.com/us/album/stj%C3%A4rnan-lyser-klar/1045588811

As of this post, not sure if these are previously unreleased, new recordings, a mixture, etc. The performing artist credits are confusing as well. For instance, some are credited to Sten & Stanley in the autogen notes. For instance:

Provided to YouTube by WM Sweden

Jag drömmer om en jul hemma · Sten & Stanley

Stjärnan lyser klar

℗ 1985 Mariann, a division of Warner Music Sweden AB

Writer: Irving Berlin

Lyricist: Lennart Reuterskiöld

The same recording...

So far no Swedish versions of "Blue Monday" by Sten Nilsson or Sten & Stanley have been added to SHS. So unclear what the above refers to.

As it's title is "Härliga lördag" (= Beautiful Saturday), the one pointed to is obviously not the same as En måndag (= One Monday).

On the labels of both Sten Nilsson releases linked to, "Härliga lördag" is credited to Erik Boberg, an alias of Bo Rehnberg, which is also confirmed by the ISWC registration (T-316.361.013-3).

"Stjärnan lyser klar" is an Xmas compilation of recordings already released between 1985 and 2000. The various artist contellations represented are shown here.

As the above entry shows, the version of "Jag drömmer om en jul hemma" on that one is the same as Jag drömmer om en jul hemma.

Hope this helps.

So far no Swedish versions of "Blue Monday" by Sten Nilsson or Sten & Stanley have been added to SHS. So unclear what the above refers to.

Not submitted as far as I know, but I have two recordings titled:

Blue Monday [Härliga Lördag] [Foreign]

https://www.discogs.com/release/5090725-Sten-Nilsson-StenStanley-P%C3%A5-G%C3%A5…

Blue Monday [Härliga Lördag] [Swedish]

https://www.discogs.com/release/5590317-Sten-Nilsson-Sten-Nilsson

... but with different translators: Bo Rehnberg vs. Monica Forsberg

The labels of both releases identify Bo Rehnberg, which as said, is reliably confirmed.

Monica Forsberg must have been stated by mistake by the person adding Sten Nilsson to discogs. Maybe because she, which is also confirmed by PROs, texted track 10 (the one before "Härlig lördag")

Revised my notes accordingly, same recording, Swedish, translator Bo Rehnberg

As of this post, I only have:

Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree

Happy Xmas (War Is Over) [Låt Julen Förkunna] [Swedish]

... indexed to that holiday release.

As for Happy Xmas (War Is Over) [Låt julen förkunna], first on Julnatt. Actually, CD2 of the compilation is identical to that release.

For the other one, I have no further details, except for indeed sung in English and the one-off group Örebro Gospel seeming to consist of members of Joybells.

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As for Happy Xmas (War Is Over) [Låt julen förkunna], first on Julnatt. Actually, CD2 of the compilation is identical to that release.

Maybe, but likely a different recording. Been 2 years, but I recall the autgen notes being precise and accurate. I also have Julnatt in my notes, so I must have went with a different recording

Provided to YouTube by WM Sweden

Låt julen förkunna · Sten Nilsson

Stjärnan lyser klar

℗ 2000 Mariann a Warner Music Group Company

Lyricist: Dan Hylander

Writer: John Lennon

Lyricist: Py Bäckman

Writer: Yoko Ono

...but likely a different recording

It surely isn't. As already pointed out, CD2 of "Stjärnan lyser klar" is identical to Julnatt. This is also confirmed by the official Swedish Media Database:

and, as the discogs entry for Stjärnan lyser klar (see also the CD inlay card pictured there) clearly shows, that 2xCD consists of Scranta SACD 1241 (the CD1 compilation) + SACD 1193 (CD2, the original catalogue number of Julnatt).

Furthermore, the autogen credits reflect the registered songwriting for the very recording:

Please remember that (from experience) you are more of a compiler while I confirm, which can result in different confidence thresholds and different weights for evidence. This means I may note and weigh things differently.

For instance, "I Vår Vackra Vintervärld" has a 1995 date in the autogen, so I indexed the recording from "Stjärnan Lyser Klar" [2000] to "Julnatt" [1995]:

Provided to YouTube by WM Sweden

I vår vackra vintervärld · Sten Nilsson · Joybells

Stjärnan lyser klar

℗ 1995 Mariann a Warner Music Group Company

Miscellaneous: Peter Himmelstrand

Composer: Felix Bernhard

Lyricist: Lasse Green

Lyricist: Richard Smith

Again this contrasts with "Låt Julen Förkunna" found on "Stjärnan Lyser Klar" [2000]:

Provided to YouTube by WM Sweden

Låt julen förkunna · Sten Nilsson

Stjärnan lyser klar

℗ 2000 Mariann a Warner Music Group Company

Lyricist: Dan Hylander

Writer: John Lennon

Lyricist: Py Bäckman

Writer: Yoko Ono

In this case I don't have even have a non-autogen indicated as from "Julnatt" [1995] with which to compare audio or runtimes.

When I know that I have a later version of an unconfirmed prior version, I will add a date to differentiate: Nilsson, Sten - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) [Låt Julen Förkunna] [Swedish] [2000]

In this case I added no date but would have known about the track listed on "Julnatt" [1995], which suggests that I left the question open.

This all means I see nothing "surely" about this question. Wouldn't really matter for SHS, as re-recordings are not added, Management is hostile to even noting re-recordings in the comments, and multi-indexing is discouraged as well.

It's a fact that "Julnatt" is CD2 of the "Stjärnan lyser klar" package. I dont know why you call me "more of a compiler" - the evidence I spent my time on researching for you is confirmed by official sources being more probative than any autogen and even documented on the release itself. In that respect, my "surely" could also have read "definitely".

If re-recordings are acknowledged and approved, commenting on them is welcomed by the management, which I'm not a part of, and quite some editors increasingly do so. Also, if recordings are verified to have been included on various releases, many editors add them accordingly. This is actually requested.

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It's a fact that "Julnatt" is CD2 of the "Stjärnan lyser klar" package.

ame tracklist doesn't necessarily mean same recording. Why the different dates in the a-gen? Why remaster one but not another? One can re-record due to legal hurdles. Remasters are often clearly labelled as such in a-gen titles.

I dont know why you call me "more of a compiler" - the evidence I spent my time on researching for you is confirmed by official sources being more probative than any autogen and even documented on the release itself. In that respect, my "surely" could also have read "definitely".

Just pulling from other sources without at least audio confirmation is compiling. The info is only just as good as the original source. Nothing wrong with compiling and it serves the goals of SHS well, but this is one of the reasons why I consider SHS entries as high quality leads but not confirmed.

If re-recordings are acknowledged and approved, commenting on them is welcomed by the management, which I'm not a part of, and quite some editors increasingly do so. Also, if recordings are verified to have been included on various releases, many editors add them accordingly. This is actually requested.

B has been expressly hostile to noting re-recordings and multi-indexing; I respect his preferences even though I don't agree,