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Bastien

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Bastien @ 2022-04-10 12:53:28 UTC

Dear Contributors,

Mathieu has introduced a "Withdraw" feature for Submissions:

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which will lead to:

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You can use this feature in cases where you realize you there is a critical mistake that makes your submission invalid: The song is not a cover, or it's duplicate submission, or....

This will remove your submission from the cover versions listings ánd from the editors' processing flow.

NB: Withdrawn submissions will NOT affect your total "rejected" submissions.

This idea was suggested by sebcat, and supported by JeffC , camembert electrique and artsinspired .

To: Lovinda JeffC besf DROSSELBOY jojo Bendysan ZZT blues99man Wikke AlBearUK Scousedave Dola Sjef Smeets spsr JohanV Pencho15 carlkranz vinyljunkierekkids vic.diriken rbrnb Philsmith Huffy Jukka Tarvonen maryhelen roscoebank

Cc: artsinspired dudek microtherion Oldiesmann sebcat DashBoardDJ856 camembert electrique baggish Nap SlimD Canary Oliver One Limbabwe walt Sylvain Guillou hounddogman David King nikitoz555 Daniel casb Rodders200 Will Moore Clee J freakscener Mark_Heyrman dany Sara K. Delage

Last edit: 2023-08-30 09:20:54 UTC by Bastien


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casb

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casb @ 2022-04-10 13:46:21 UTC

Read. Good!

Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2022-04-10 14:27:55 UTC

I have also brought this up on several occasions, but that's not material.


What I personally wouldn't like to see happen are withdrawals after editor involvement. A "withdrawal" should be for a self-discovered problem (or perhaps by another contributor) that justifies a withdrawal in order to not waste the editors' time.


In a "perfect world", that button should no longer be available once a submission is assigned. I know I'm likely in the minority here, but I can anticipate some editors suggesting a withdrawal to avoid a rejection while others will just reject leading to differing contributor experiences depending on the situation and editor.


Another possible risk are legit submissions that a contributor just withdraws if asked for more info, etc., resulting in a lost lead.


Just a long held concern and an additional immediate thought.

DROSSELBOY

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DROSSELBOY @ 2022-04-10 16:53:19 UTC

what's the difference with " reject " ?

spsr

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spsr @ 2022-04-10 17:21:05 UTC

Correct.

I have done a test and better than before but for me it is a "dangerous" button:


If by "error" you press it (it's next to NEW COMMENT), there is no going back.

It has happened to me more than once


In my opinion:

1- This button should have a simple confirmation message like... "Are you sure you want to delete this entry...." --> YES / CANCEL.

2- It should be possible to recover the entry in case of involuntary error of oneself, simply by pressing the button again, with another confirmation message to recover it.

Pencho15

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Pencho15 @ 2022-04-10 17:48:19 UTC

I rejected two of my submissions after finding I made an error, it would had been nice to be able to withdraw it, so I like this.

SlimD

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SlimD @ 2022-04-10 18:09:56 UTC

Good idea.

Clee J

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Clee J @ 2022-04-10 18:15:24 UTC

Brilliant! Consider this read.


Clee J

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Nap

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Nap @ 2022-04-11 00:37:05 UTC

Read

rbrnb

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rbrnb @ 2022-04-11 01:10:03 UTC

Read.

dany

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dany @ 2022-04-11 09:56:27 UTC

Read.

Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2022-04-11 11:40:12 UTC

This button should have a simple confirmation message like... "Are you sure you want to delete this entry...." --> YES / CANCEL.


Seems like the "Reject" button needs a confirmation as well?

camembert electrique

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camembert electrique @ 2022-04-12 01:24:37 UTC

What I personally wouldn't like to see happen are withdrawals after editor involvement. A "withdrawal" should be for a self-discovered problem...

In a "perfect world", that button should no longer be available once a submission is assigned

Another possible risk are legit submissions that a contributor just withdraws if asked for more info, etc., resulting in a lost lead.

I don't think it should really matter why someone withdraws a submission. Very likely, no contributor would do so without insight or a substantial reason.

Not making that button available if editors have assigned submissions IMO seems agreeable.

Withdrawing a submission because of being asked for evidence would mean confessing that it hadn't been researched sufficiently. Probably, that would only go for a neglectable minority, so we could take that risk.

camembert electrique

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camembert electrique @ 2022-04-12 01:29:01 UTC

I like the idea of a confirmation message like... "Are you sure you want to delete this entry...." --> YES / CANCEL as suggested by spsr (but would replace delete by withdraw)

Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2022-04-12 05:23:20 UTC

What I personally wouldn't like to see happen are withdrawals after editor involvement. A "withdrawal" should be for a self-discovered problem...

In a "perfect world", that button should no longer be available once a submission is assigned

Another possible risk are legit submissions that a contributor just withdraws if asked for more info, etc., resulting in a lost lead.

I don't think it should really matter why someone withdraws a submission. Very likely, no contributor would do so without insight or a substantial reason.


To clarify, the reason doesn't matter. Whether the withdrawal is self motivated does matter.


Withdrawing a submission because of being asked for evidence would mean confessing that it hadn't been researched sufficiently. Probably, that would only go for a neglectable minority, so we could take that risk.


I have seen editors just delete a performance upon my filing a report, even when I considered the entry salvageable or otherwise legit, just flawed to some degree. Sometimes resulting in my later submitting the same performance. Removing the "Withdraw" (and "Reject") button(s) upon assignment mostly solves the problem anyway.

DROSSELBOY

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DROSSELBOY @ 2022-04-12 14:05:49 UTC

It would also be nice to be able to do this for Web Cover submissions

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2022-04-12 15:18:27 UTC

what's the difference with " reject " ?

Good question.

The difference is that rejecting DOES affect your total "rejected" submissions.