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1J 006 21xxx singles
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Not only should we consider it normal... is that it is a fact, whether we like it or not.
Faced with this fact, we must do two things:
- Accept it, that is, recognize that releases of different labels can show a common pattern in their catalog number.
- Understand the cause of that fact. The cause is unique: in that period of time, the labels involved were in the hands of the same company, who is the creator of that common pattern.
When the company EMI was founded in 1931, among its possessions was the Odeon label.
That same company is responsible for the foundation of the Harvest label in 1969.
Finally, around 1973, the same company created a label that has the same name: the EMI label.
I don't even want to talk about EMI [ES] because for me it's not a legitimate regional label.
Colophon: in our database, we classify Odeon-label releases on the one hand, on the other hand Harvest-label releases, and on the other hand EMI-label releases and there is no more. If certain catalog numbers on such labels share a common pattern is a fact that should not worry us... we already know why that happens.
Last edit: 2022-04-29 06:40:28 UTC by dany
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Alright, thank you for your super helpful reply. I cleaned the EMI [ES] releases from this list.
Taking another step back:
https://secondhandsongs.com/search/release?display=title.performer.releaseDate.l…
dany What is your opinion on the Regal [UK] and La voz de su amo releases we see here?
Junior Editor
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The explanation for that coincidence is the same as in the previous case.
Since 1931, the two labels you cite have the same owner: the EMI company.
Manager
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I believe I have a solution for this problem. All releases can be exactly on the label where they belong AND we can have a global overview of the label series so nothing gets lost in terms of numbering, dating and chronology.
I created EMI [Company] , to which it's impossible to directly attribute releases. However it has those cross-EMI-series we've been discussing.
Junior Editor
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For you, the concept of series represents something that is above the concept of record label.
For me... no. Knowing this, I will try to be neutral and objective.
You say: I believe I have a solution for this problem. (...).
Could you describe as accurately as you can
what the problem is
and
how does that problem affect the cataloging system that is implemented in SHS
Manager
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For you, the concept of series represents something that is above the concept of record label.
across record labels would be more accurate.
what the problem is
It's not a problem, it's more a missed opportunity.