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Artist Alias Length Limited in Versions Table

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2022-05-12 13:49:46 UTC

Example: Taxman

We were already limiting performance titles to 40 characters:

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And now we are doing the same for performer aliases. This is how it used to look like:

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And this is how it looks like now:

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dudek

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dudek @ 2022-05-13 17:03:23 UTC

I have 2-3 remarks here:

1) I'd prefer not to cut the words in the middle, but to put "..." next to the last whole world. In the case above, that would mean "Tony..." instead of "Tony Levi...". I find it neater. What do you think?

2) On my screen, I see many cases where the artist name is divided in two lines. For example this orchestra: Taneční orchestr Československého rozhlasu - see the Covers section:

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The second line often contains only two letters and the rest of this line (after "..." symbol) is empty. That looks strange. (A visitor can ask himself why the name is cut when there is so much space.)

3) Similarly, in other cases the artist's name stays in one line, but it ends with "..." symbol even if there is still enough space to display more (or even the whole name).

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I know there is 40 character limit, but maybe we could move the "Release date" column more to the left, so that a visitor can see a reason why the name is cut suddenly.


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Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2022-05-14 09:15:57 UTC
  • The columns Title and Performer used to have a fixed, relative size (e.g. 25%). But somehow that doesn't work anymore. The column size are now completely dynamic, based on the size of the content in these columns.
  • The length limitation of columns is fixed to a number of characters, it does not take into account the display with of a column.

I suggest:

  • Make the title & performer columns (relative) fixed width
  • Enforce that that titles and performers do not wrap on multiple lines, but are shortened dynamically instead. This is a standard feature in browsers.

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2022-05-17 13:57:50 UTC

* Enforce that that titles and performers do not wrap on multiple lines, but are shortened dynamically instead.

How will this work for mobile users?

This is what the Taneční orchestr Československého rozhlasu covers list look like on my iPhone:

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Will it enforce non-wrapping based on my screen width? Or will it allow for a table wider than my screen, as it currently is?

Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2022-05-23 09:20:02 UTC

The mobile layout was broken, and so was the alignment of multiple version tables through fixed column widths.

Fixed both and added automatic ellipsis. Have a look.

baggish

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baggish @ 2022-05-23 09:43:18 UTC

I don't like this truncation of the artist alias at all. If this truncation has to be there, perhaps it could be possible to add a 'tool tip' (don't know if that is the proper name) so that a small window showing the full name pops up if you hover over the truncated name for a moment or two.

The reason I don't like it: if the alias is X with orchestra conducted by Y and you can't see Y, a huge amount of value has been lost. It is a real step backwards.

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Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2022-05-23 09:59:53 UTC

Full name/title is shown now when hovering over it.

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2022-05-26 12:39:45 UTC

As for the mobile version, I saw you changed it quite radically!

Portrait mode:

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Landscape mode:

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Much easier to navigate, no doubt about it.


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Bastien

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Bastien @ 2022-05-26 12:43:45 UTC

Maybe one strange thing I noticed:

Vladimír Salač - Smyčcový orchestr Dalibora Brázdy is truncated on the mobile version

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but not on the desktop version?

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Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2022-05-26 13:36:04 UTC

Indeed an inconsistency. How would you like it?

Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2022-05-28 07:41:51 UTC

I'm not convinced by the latest changes in maximum length, whether it be fixed 40 characters, or restrict to a single line. It seems sometimes a bit short.

Maybe it's better to revert to a fixed maximum, but much longer, like 60 or 80 characters?

I think the most important reason to restrict the length of titles and names, is to avoid bad table layouts due to extremely long lines, like a medley or a collaboration with all individual names listed. Having a higher limit still helps with this, while the probability of hiding relevant information is significantly lower.

dudek

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dudek @ 2022-05-28 19:37:14 UTC

I like the idea to restrict it to a single line, as you suggest.

Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2022-05-29 08:07:23 UTC

I didn't like the restrictive limitation of a single line nor the dynamic behavior of hovering over long lines.

I have reverted back to the old behavior of fixed maximum of characters, but with a much higher limit (100). That way

  • overly long titles or names a still clipped to a sane length
  • important information is always (immediately) visible

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Oliver One @ 2022-05-30 09:07:35 UTC

I didn't like the restrictive limitation of a single line nor the dynamic behavior of hovering over long lines.

I have reverted back to the old behavior

Approved! Wink

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Bastien @ 2022-05-31 15:15:56 UTC

I have reverted back to the old behavior of fixed maximum of characters, but with a much higher limit (100).

100 seems like too much, have a look at this for example:

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That's on my desktop, full width, and the artist is still displayed over 3 lines.

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2022-05-31 15:16:47 UTC

Indeed an inconsistency. How would you like it?

I prefer when it's truncated, like on the mobile version.