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sebcat

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sebcat @ 2022-09-24 11:36:44 UTC

Sorry about the long hiatus. Between work, and looking after my 80-year-old mother, it has been difficult to find time to do anything else.

Nice to have you back David King

dudek

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dudek @ 2022-09-26 07:49:38 UTC

Nice, thanks!

walt

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walt @ 2022-09-26 07:58:09 UTC

Thanks Mat!

Oliver One

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Oliver One @ 2022-09-26 08:06:53 UTC

Thanks Mathieu, just one remark and all detailed research are concerned: "Number of results per page" isn't kept like other search settings. We must settings again for each new search…

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dudek

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dudek @ 2022-09-26 09:19:59 UTC

I don't know whether it relates to this improvement but I have problems with searching more than one word now... for example when I try to search for "Miroslav Petr", I get this message:

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Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2022-09-26 11:49:00 UTC

I don't know whether it relates to this improvement but I have problems with searching more than one word now... for example when I try to search for "Miroslav Petr", I get this message:

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Fixed.

Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2022-09-26 13:34:44 UTC

Thanks Mathieu, just one remark and all detailed research are concerned: "Number of results per page" isn't kept like other search settings. We must settings again for each new search…

Fixed.

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2022-09-26 22:15:42 UTC

I am not talking about ownership. I don't mind other editors working on releases created by me, absolutely not. However, I want to keep track of my unfinished entries - so that it doesn't get lost in history.

Which should also work with the e-notes. I speak from experience, as there has been a number of occasions in which the e-notes indicated additional or even unknown covers that I could identify and submitted. Hidden Personal Notes is a lost opportunity.

I also have no problem with personal notes being visible. BUT the big advantage of personal notes over editors notes is that each editor gets a collated to-do list drawn from personal notes. I wouldn't want to lose that, which was the main point of the to-do list enhancement, as far as I understand it.

Mark_Heyrman

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Mark_Heyrman @ 2022-09-26 22:49:19 UTC

Because I don't have the powers of a full editor yet, I make a remark into the personal notes to correct something what in fact isn't an error but on which I can do a better job.

First, thanks for the reply.

Second, this wouldn't seem to apply to entries assigned/managed by another editor, as one wouldn't normally revise another's entry for subjective style or preference. Do you mean matters that are not report-worthy on entries that you made but can't currently edit? Maybe additional source links? Why are source links hidden anyway?

No, I can add additional external links. Let's say for instance that I have a better quality and format of an artist image. In normal circumstances then I would need to generate an error report and add the picture into the report. That's a double job... On entries that I've created this isn't an issue.

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Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2022-09-27 09:41:39 UTC

I am not talking about ownership. I don't mind other editors working on releases created by me, absolutely not. However, I want to keep track of my unfinished entries - so that it doesn't get lost in history.

Which should also work with the e-notes. I speak from experience, as there has been a number of occasions in which the e-notes indicated additional or even unknown covers that I could identify and submitted. Hidden Personal Notes is a lost opportunity.

I also have no problem with personal notes being visible. BUT the big advantage of personal notes over editors notes is that each editor gets a collated to-do list drawn from personal notes. I wouldn't want to lose that, which was the main point of the to-do list enhancement, as far as I understand it.


This brings me full circle to converting "Personal Notes" to "Public Notes". Perhaps even some standard drop down options for common categories:

Remaining Cover(s)

Needs Better Image

Lead(s)

???

Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2022-09-27 09:46:31 UTC

Because I don't have the powers of a full editor yet, I make a remark into the personal notes to correct something what in fact isn't an error but on which I can do a better job.

First, thanks for the reply.

Second, this wouldn't seem to apply to entries assigned/managed by another editor, as one wouldn't normally revise another's entry for subjective style or preference. Do you mean matters that are not report-worthy on entries that you made but can't currently edit? Maybe additional source links? Why are source links hidden anyway?

No, I can add additional external links. Let's say for instance that I have a better quality and format of an artist image. In normal circumstances then I would need to generate an error report and add the picture into the report. That's a double job... On entries that I've created this isn't an issue.


From experience, editors can be very particular with images, so this also doesn't appear to be a good example. Also, why would this need to be personal rather than public?


Some history, I had then recently made a lot of reports to offer missing cover art, etc. when I originally recommended creating the Certified Contributor (CC) status, which included adding missing images. My experience was that the editors often objected to what I thought was a clearly better image, so I quickly decided the authority was better left unused.

Mark_Heyrman

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Mark_Heyrman @ 2022-09-27 10:57:36 UTC

From experience, editors can be very particular with images, so this also doesn't appear to be a good example. Also, why would this need to be personal rather than public?

To avoid the confrontation to those editors, I prefer not to file an error report

Some history, I had then recently made a lot of reports to offer missing cover art, etc. when I originally recommended creating the Certified Contributor (CC) status, which included adding missing images. My experience was that the editors often objected to what I thought was a clearly better image, so I quickly decided the authority was better left unused.

For the moment there's a standard for pictures (also a minimum), concerning quality and measures. When the crop function is red highlighted it needs some action! But why make this a public comment? Also, for the moment, and for my knowledge, there's no possibility to explore the database on artist pictures that don't match the (minimum) standards.

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Bastien

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Bastien @ 2022-09-27 12:34:49 UTC

To avoid the confrontation to those editors, I prefer not to file an error report

Are you impliying defensive behaviour from the assigned editor?

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2022-09-27 12:38:35 UTC

Mathieu

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"Entity type", is this work/performance/artist/etc... ?

And if yes, maybe a dropdown would be more convenient?

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2022-09-27 15:08:33 UTC

To avoid the confrontation to those editors, I prefer not to file an error report

Are you impliying defensive behaviour from the assigned editor?

I had the same thought and question Smile

Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2022-09-27 15:40:29 UTC

From experience, editors can be very particular with images, so this also doesn't appear to be a good example. Also, why would this need to be personal rather than public?

To avoid the confrontation to those editors, I prefer not to file an error report


But risking the "edit war" that the policy to notice the assigned editor rather than change yourself is designed to avoid?


Some history, I had then recently made a lot of reports to offer missing cover art, etc. when I originally recommended creating the Certified Contributor (CC) status, which included adding missing images. My experience was that the editors often objected to what I thought was a clearly better image, so I quickly decided the authority was better left unused.

For the moment there's a standard for pictures (also a minimum), concerning quality and measures. When the crop function is red highlighted it needs some action! But why make this a public comment? Also, for the moment, and for my knowledge, there's no possibility to explore the database on artist pictures that don't match the (minimum) standards.


Yet an assigned editor may prefer a different crop, resulting in the same edit war risk? Again some personal experience, I used to include pics, often cropped, for new artist submissions, but ~90% of the time the processing editor would prefer a different image or crop. I quickly stopped exerting those efforts and left the image completely to the editors.




So far, I can't so far recall an example comment that is both relevant to an SHS entry but needs to be hidden.

David King

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David King @ 2022-09-27 18:37:17 UTC

Sorry about the long hiatus. Between work, and looking after my 80-year-old mother, it has been difficult to find time to do anything else.

Nice to have you back David King

Ugh, just when I get some extra time, I end up getting called away. I'm glad to be back, though.

Anyway, I will be off work the next few days. We are under a hurricane watch here in Central Florida, and it will soon turn to a hurricane warning. Several southwest Florida counties are under hurricane warning. The current track shows it traveling straight through Lake County, where I live, so I might be unavailable later. Much of the population is evacuating north, but we are going to stay put.


I like these changes that Mathieu has implemented of late. Mathieu , you've been on a roll!

Last edit: 2022-09-27 18:51:32 UTC by David King

dudek

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dudek @ 2022-09-27 19:08:20 UTC

I don't understand why there is so much ado about personal notes. Let's enjoy having them and let every editor use them as he pleases... I am glad I can use this feature for many remarks, various tags and so on that I had to keep in my notepad before. And I appreciate we have this option.