Cover submission
Take the "A" Train by Duke Ellington's Spacemen
Submitted by
On January 2, 2018
Performance
Take the "A" Train
By Duke Ellington's Spacemen
Cover of
Written by Billy Strayhorn, Lee Gaines
Completeness
- Language
- (instrumental)
- Release
- The Cosmic Scene
The Cosmic Scene
- Release date
- 1958
- Label
- Columbia [US]
- Catalog number
- CL 1198
- Format
- Album 12" LP
Additional comments and sources
History
This is another Ellington led ensemble, so I'm not sure this qualifies as a "different artist" according to our criteria (we already have a vocal, instrumental, and visual recording of this song by Ellington).
I'm never sure how this works. "The label controls" except when it doesn't?
I must admit that this was a complete judgment call on my part. Can you please point me to the guideline that says "the label controls"?
No, I can't. It used to be addressed (somewhat) in the "database guidelines," but these are no longer available (to me?).
(See, https://secondhandsongs.com/topic/74178)
In any event, I've never quite grasped how "credits" work. (See, e.g., https://secondhandsongs.com/case/51371
Last updated by JeffC on 2018-06-23 06:37:51 UTC - Show original message
It's an area of very active discussion among editors - with not much prospect of being resolves as far as I can see.
At the present time, I think the position is that we should only include one performance per artist. There are a few exceptions, but this is the gist. So if we think that Duke Ellington and "Duke Ellington's Spaceman" are the same 'artist' as per SHS definitions, then we wouldn't add a second performance based on the current approach. On the other hand, if you felt that "Duke Ellington's Spaceman" should be listed as a separate artist in the database, then you could add the cover.
Thanks for the added discussion, Jeff and Seb. My thought on this is that the "Spacemen" have no identity separate from Duke Ellington; they never recorded anything else under that name. So my instinct would be to treat them as an alias for Duke Ellington himself.
https://secondhandsongs.com/case/51371 is a bit different, because in that case, there is at least an identifiable band leader/conductor distinct from the soloist. Here, there is not even that.
My thought on this is that the "Spacemen" have no identity separate from Duke Ellington; they never recorded anything else under that name. So my instinct would be to treat them as an alias for Duke Ellington himself.
Agree microtherion , suggesting that this cover doesn't qualify for the database JeffC ?