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Čovjek S Tisuću Mana by Josipa Lisac

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Čovjek S Tisuću Mana

By Josipa Lisac

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camembert electrique

On January 20, 2021

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Language
Croatian
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Josipa Lisac
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Josipa Lisac & B. P. Convention Big Band International

Josipa Lisac & B. P. Convention Big Band International

Release date
1976
Label
Jugoton
Catalog number
LSY-63038
Format
Album 12" LP

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Comment by Tar Heel
2021-01-17 14:47:56 UTC

Under review:

Provided to YouTube by Croatia Records d.d.

Čovjek S Tisuću Mana · Josipa Lisac · B. P. Convention Big Band

Antologija Josipe Lisac

℗ Croatia Records

Released on: 2012-02-01

Author: Hurley

Arranger: Ozren Depolo

Composer: Wilkins


 
Comment by camembert electrique
2021-01-20 04:42:23 UTC

Hm, there seem to be no Lisac authoring credits. The labels for the song show an additional one for Depolo = Itren Depolo, a member of the B. P. Convention Big Band - who, btw., are the co-recording artists of the album (and track) - but that credit might as well go for the arrangement.

The Croatian ZAMP shows no according results, neither for the Croatian title nor in the lists of registered works by Depolo, Lisac or Ivica Krajač (who is generally credited on the labels for 'prepjevi', as far as understand meaning '(he) sings', not 'songs' or 'words'.

Another one for [unknown]? Sometimes [undefined] would actually fit better...

 
Change by camembert electrique
2021-01-20 04:42:56 UTC
Assignee: camembert electrique
 
Comment by Tar Heel
2021-01-20 04:47:48 UTC

Not good enough?


Lyrics By [Croatian] – Ivica Krajač

Arranged By – Krešimir Oblak (tracks: A1, B5), Miljenko Prohaska (tracks: A4, B1 to B3), Ozren Depolo (tracks: A2, A3, A5, B4)


https://www.discogs.com/Josipa-Lisac-B-P-Convention-Big-Band-International-Josip…

 
Comment by camembert electrique
2021-01-20 05:34:38 UTC

Nema, Krajač is (quoting myself) "generally credited on the labels for 'prepjevi', as far as I understand meaning '(he) sings', not 'songs' or 'words'". My ex-wife spontanously said ah, he is the singer - which surely doesn't fit...

Nevertheless, it doesn't seem unlikely to me that Krajač did the translations. There is just no hard enough evidence. But Lisac herself can most likely be excluded. Can't she?

Last updated by camembert electrique on 2021-01-20 05:37:19 UTC - Show original message

 
Comment by Tar Heel
2021-01-20 05:58:40 UTC

I know nothing of this artist, which is both a blessing and a curse. My findings are pure analysis based on the evidence; on the other hand, I have no context or history outside of what I can find.


I almost always defer to the editors on which adaption/translators absent strong enough evidence to support an "are we sure" (e.g.):

https://secondhandsongs.com/error-report/42329

https://secondhandsongs.com/error-report/42412

I'd say I'm correct to at least raise the question over 90% of the time, and provide correct info over 50%.

 
Comment by Scousedave
submitter
2021-01-20 07:03:21 UTC

The Discogs entry seems clear enough to me -Lyrics by (Croatian).


Mitwirkende


Arranged By – Krešimir Oblak (tracks: A1, B5), Miljenko Prohaska (tracks: A4, B1 to B3), Ozren Depolo (tracks: A2, A3, A5, B4)

Conductor – Miljenko Prohaska

Design – I. Ivezić*, Karlo Metikoš

'Lyrics By [Croatian] – Ivica Krajač'

Performer [Musician] – Albert Mangelsdorff, Ante Živković, Art Farmer, Boško Petrović, Clark Terry, Damir Dičić, Ernie Wilkins, Gianni Basso, Ivan Kuzmić, Josip Stojanović, Karlo Takač, Ladislav Fidry*, Marcel Fuchs, Marjan Domić*, Mario Mavrin, Ozren Depolo, Salih Sadiković, Vladimir Sverak, Zlatko Dvoržak


The label does credit (Ozren) Depolo under the individual songs but he is credited above as arranger.

 
Change by camembert electrique
2021-01-20 15:08:28 UTC
Status: open processed
 
Comment by camembert electrique
2021-01-20 15:08:28 UTC

Added, thanks!

 
Comment by camembert electrique
2021-01-20 15:23:47 UTC

So, in the end everything as basically supposed.

I reckon crediting Lisac for the lyrics was simply a copy/paste mistake, similar to my typo Idren instead of Ozren Depolo...

 
Comment by Tar Heel
2021-01-20 16:29:24 UTC

I dunno CE. I'm advised "xxx' is just an arranger, producer, etc, all the time by reviewing editors, regardless of what's printed on a label or represented on some source.