Completeness Score

Here are two another examples:

https://secondhandsongs.com/submission/85691

The performer on this one is "Fats Waller and his Rhythm" (no capitalization of the "h in "his") per label scan. However, the shs data base has only "Fats Waller and His Rhythm" (capitalization of the "H'' in "his").'

https://secondhandsongs.com/submission/54588

The artist on this one is "Chris Barber's Jazz and Blues Band with Special Guests." According to the "missing data" information, "completeness" is lessened because (among other things) the submission lacked an "artist birth date." This makes no sense to me. (The shs link for "Chris Barber" was included but of course it did not populate the form, which doesn't recognize this variation. "Chris Barber" has a birth date. "Chris Barber's Jazz and Blues Band with Special Guests" does not, nor would it in any meaningful sense I can think of.)

Last edit: 2019-12-27 02:31:29 UTC by JeffC

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Quote from VirileVagabond

the repeated use of "complete" when discussing each meter can cause some confusion....

True.

Therefore, ticket #3142: Rephrasing submission form progress

Objective: Reducing confusion with the Completeness score displayed after submitting.

In the submission form:

• Rephrase Submission completeness to Progress
• Remove The more complete, the faster our team will be able to process it.

Implemented!

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On this one, during preparation of the submission the "progress" report stalled at 93%, but after submission the "completeness" was 100% -- which is a bit disconcerting. The "progress" percentage implied (apparently inaccurately) that I'd missed something that should have been included in the submission.

https://secondhandsongs.com/submission/85692

Last edit: 2019-12-27 05:58:59 UTC by JeffC

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Quote from Jeff Chamberlain

On this one, during preparation of the submission the "progress" report stalled at 93%, but after submission the "completeness" was 100% -- which is a bit disconcerting. The "progress" percentage implied (apparently inaccurately) that I'd missed something that should have been included in the submission.

https://secondhandsongs.com/submission/85692

You didn't rate the performance you submitted, so the progress was not 100%. Afterwards, the submission is considered complete though.

Quote from Jeff Chamberlain

One example: If the credit on a new submission does not exactly match a credit for the same artist in the database, the form does not recognize the "new" credit name. (E.g., "jane Doe and her quintet" vs. "Jane Doe and her quartet.") So as a submitter shall I enter the "right" credit not improv(improving the submission score) or the "right" credit (the one on the submission but not as entered in the database, choosing accuracy over completeness), or the "wrong" credit (the closest match to an existing data base entry but not as the artist is identified on the release, sacrificing accuracy for completeness), or am I expected to enter the "right" credit and then hand-fill the rest of the identification information (that already exists in the database under one of the "not quite the same" credits)?

New and dedicated topic started: https://secondhandsongs.com/topic/75396

Mathieu: You don't find this inconsistent?

(What exactly is one "progressing" toward?)

Last edit: 2019-12-27 17:13:38 UTC by JeffC

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Mathieu: You don't find this inconsistent?

(What exactly is one "progressing" toward?)

It's because they serve a different purpose: incentive to fill out the form as complete as possible versus an indication of how much information was provided.

If you have a solution let me know.

Eliminate "rating" from the progress report?

... or include rating in the Completeness score?

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Eliminate "rating" from the progress report?

It serves as incentive to rate the submitted performances.

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... or include rating in the Completeness score?

It is irrelevant for processing the submission.

A rating has nothing to do with verifying a cover.

And, for that matter, neither does (most of?) the biographical information.

Last edit: 2019-12-28 18:35:15 UTC by JeffC

And sometimes the submission for doesn't work properly, arbitrarily deflating "completeness score."

Here's an example, in which the performer, who is in the shs data base, was not recognized (I tried three times):

https://secondhandsongs.com/submission/85760

Paolo Alderighi

Quote from Jeff Chamberlain

And sometimes the submission for doesn't work properly, arbitrarily deflating "completeness score."

Here's an example, in which the performer, who is in the shs data base, was not recognized (I tried three times):

https://secondhandsongs.com/submission/85760

Paolo Alderighi

A situation covered in the thread dedicated to this matter. It doesn't attach because that artist is currently on site only as part of a duo: Stephanie Trick, Paolo Alderighi

VV -- I don't think so. He's in the data base by himself (Paolo Alderighi with Trick, and also as a member of International Hot Jazz Quartet

Quote from Jeff Chamberlain

VV -- I don't think so. He's in the data base by himself (Paolo Alderighi with Trick, and also as a member of International Hot Jazz Quartet

I run into this situation all the time. While I can't guarantee, I'm rather confident....

or when a new artist is part of the submission and part of a band even just a duo and a date of birth is part of the form.-- cannot b filled in so has to be left blank

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... or include rating in the Completeness score?

It is irrelevant for processing the submission.

That's arbitrary. If we decide it's relevant for processing the submission, then it is

One could argue it's more attractive for us to process a submission with a rating than one without.