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"John Jacob jingleheimer Smith" by Daddy Dewdrop - two versions

Oldiesmann

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Oldiesmann @ 2020-07-04 05:12:30 UTC

Back in 1971, Daddy Dewdrop recorded his version of the old folk song "John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt" as the flip side to the novelty tune "Chick-a-Boom". "John Jacob ..." was also released on his self-titled album. However, there are two different versions of the song by him and I'm not sure which came when...


There's an "instrumental" version (instrumental with people singing "Da..." over the music) and a vocal version with Daddy Dewdrop actually singing the lyrics. The instrumentation is the same in both versions.



Does anyone know which version was released when?

jojo

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jojo @ 2020-07-04 07:04:49 UTC

Hello Michael,


Sunflower is a sub-label of MGM.

So the answer can be found in The MGM Labels: A Discography, Volume 2, 1961-1982 by Ed Novitsky and Michel Ruppli.


And we are lucky to have a forum-member, who owns a copy of that discography


https://secondhandsongs.com/page/EditorBooks


So Bastien could help you out here.


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Oldiesmann

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Oldiesmann @ 2020-07-05 04:28:23 UTC

Thanks jojo. I'll set a reply request for Bastien on this.

jojo

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jojo @ 2020-07-10 08:12:15 UTC

Michael,


Any luck ?


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Oldiesmann

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Oldiesmann @ 2020-07-11 02:39:37 UTC

Haven't looked any further. I did request a reply from Bastien on this though. I'll try to do more digging this weekend and see if I can figure it out.

jojo

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jojo @ 2020-08-01 17:33:30 UTC

Haven't looked any further. I did request a reply from Bastien on this though. I'll try to do more digging this weekend and see if I can figure it out.


Michael,


I have made some scans from the MGM labels discography mentioned above.


On October 15, 1970 the recording of "John Jacob Jingleheimer Smith" was made. On the scan of that recording date, it says it was issued on Sunflower Sun 105 (45) and SNF 5006 (album).


But on scan 2 we can see on April 30, 1971 Daddy Dewdrop recorded 8 more songs that ended all up on the album.


My guess is, altough it isn't noted in the MGM discography, on April 30, 1971 he made some vocal dubbing on the instrumental version of "John Jacob Jingleheimer Smith".


JoJo greets

Last edit: 2020-08-01 17:39:55 UTC by jojo

jojo

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jojo @ 2020-08-01 17:43:36 UTC

I tried to attach the scans but I got an errorcode:


Error!

Internal error


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