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EMI Electrola - A label with problems

dany

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dany @ 2020-08-26 08:54:27 UTC

The fundamental classification criterion in our field is the artist:

person - John Lennon

or group - The Quarrymen

or a sum (juxtaposition) of artists - Stéphane Grappelli, Yehudi Menuhin

This criterion, being the essential, is also very easy to establish.

The second classification criterion is the record label, a strange entity that is sometimes not easily deductible and can create genuine headaches.


What about EMI Electrola ?

I transcribe the definition put by the editor-creator...

Country Germany

Active from 1972 to 2002

Comments Logo appearing regularly on German pressings issued from 1972 to 2002 (with infrequent occurrences between 1983 and 1994).

Two external links appear.

The first link is a company (EMI Electrola GmbH: German subdivision of EMI Records from 1972 to 2002).

The second link - I say: will this be the record label? - should be the important one.


After reading it, I deduce that the editor-creator's source of information is DISCOGS.


But, ladies and gentlemen, DISCOGS says more things, by way of warnings...

Please use always the branded/coded label as primary label. You can enter EMI Electrola as a label when the EMI Electrola logo appears on the release.

And more:

The 'EMI Electrola' logo will likely appear on releases of following labels

Apple Records (LC 1074), Arista (LC 3484), Bell Records (LC 0130), Capitol Records (LC 0148), Deutsche Harmonia Mundi (LC 0761), Electrola (LC 0193), EMI (LC 0542), Harvest (LC 1305), His Master's Voice (LC 0233), Immediate (LC 0009), Liberty (LC 0249), Motown (LC 0881), Papagayo (LC 6712), Private Stock (LC 3475), RAK (LC 1750), Tamla Motown (LC 0363), The Rocket Record Company (LC 3053), United Artists Records (LC 0379), etc.


So, I, somewhere, see this logo: EMI Electrola...

but the label may be another name: EMI, Electrola, etc.


I give two examples:

Dolce Vita -----> Electrola

Liebst du mich ----> EMI


More alerts from another recognized site:

https://rateyourmusic.com/label/emi_electrola/

Only use this label when its logo appears on the release and that's typically between 1972 and 2002. When it doesn't, the label will probably be EMI Records, Electrola or some other sublabel, based on the logo.

Last edit: 2020-08-26 09:00:01 UTC by dany

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2020-08-26 14:15:51 UTC

Good spot dany . It sounds like several of the releases are incorrectly linked to this label when they should be on EMI or Electrola. walt has made some changes to the label based on the audit log and might have some suggestions on how to handle. You might want to start filling some error reports for the obvious errors in the meantime.

dany

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dany @ 2020-08-26 19:57:00 UTC

Sebastian, you who are its creator...

could you show me a record representative of this label?

I promise to give you my honest opinion.

In this way, we would end up sooner.

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2020-08-26 20:30:26 UTC

Sebastian, you who are its creator...

could you show me a record representative of this label?

I promise to give you my honest opinion.

In this way, we would end up sooner.

I’ve no idea why I created it now as none of the entries are mine Smile and the comments came from walt . I see the most entries by CarlDennis and Oldiesmann - they might like to look at their entries and see if they belong with this hybrid label or elsewhere.

dany

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dany @ 2020-08-27 07:13:07 UTC

Thank you, Michael.


So Die Karawane zieht weiter... Dä Sultan hät Doosch! ---> EMI Electrola


Jetzt knallt's! Vol 10 ---> Electrola Media (Added by Mop66 on 2015-02-08 11:31:08 UTC)

https://www.discogs.com/label/159809-Electrola-Media

https://rateyourmusic.com/label/electrola_media/


PD 1

I continue to upload images of the discs themselves (not the cover) to facilitate the cataloging process.


PD 2

Michael, don't forget that in this area, a Columbia record (no from Spain) should be catalogued in our EMI Columbia ... even if the current name is not ideal.

Last edit: 2020-08-27 07:29:21 UTC by dany

dany

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dany @ 2020-08-27 09:39:25 UTC

There are few Columbia records.

Editors are reminded that this Columbia is EMI-linked Columbia,

so those records must be placed in EMI Columbia

dany

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dany @ 2020-08-27 11:25:48 UTC

The image download job is finished.

(In very few cases, there was no possibility of getting an appropriate image).

I suggest the editors go over their records and make the appropriate decision.

If there is any special case, I recommend using this same thread. Thanks.

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2020-08-27 11:55:48 UTC

The image download job is finished.

(In very few cases, there was no possibility of getting an appropriate image).

I suggest the editors go over their records and make the appropriate decision.

If there is any special case, I recommend using this same thread. Thanks.

Many thanks dany much appreciated.

If you spot any releases mislaid could you flash them here tagging the relevant editor? Or file an error report?

dany

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dany @ 2020-08-27 12:07:02 UTC

Sebastian, I prefer to centralize this case in this thread.

I don't see myself writing now more than 100 error reports.

I'll try to group the cases together in some way.... and indicate editors involved.

Ok ?

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2020-08-27 12:17:07 UTC

I'll try to group the cases together in some way.... and indicate editors involved.

Ok ?

Yes perfect dany . Don’t forget to use the new tag feature when you do.

Canary

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Canary @ 2020-08-27 13:52:48 UTC

Checked mine, the are both EMI Electrola, clearly visible on front and back cover.

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Canary

camembert electrique

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camembert electrique @ 2020-08-27 14:15:52 UTC

Thanks a lot for taking the initiative after all the discussions there had been about this in the past!

I already amended Verloren an hour ago.

There might actually be even more cases, though, a. o. entries by retired editors.

Last edit: 2020-08-27 14:21:45 UTC by camembert electrique

CarlDennis

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CarlDennis @ 2020-08-27 15:04:56 UTC

Good call, José Manuel, I have corrected all mine..................

Thom

dany

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dany @ 2020-08-27 16:47:49 UTC

I'm going with the albums now.

Notice that there are now only 25, less than before.

Someone is acting in the shadows Smile


Bastien

79er Motzbeutel

Mer han'nen Deckel


CarlDennis

Der Nippel

Ein Mann, ein Mädchen ---> EMI --- See the word EMI in the upper right corner of the frontcover

Em richtije Veedel - De Bläck Fööss singe Leeder vum Willi Ostermann ---> EMI (probably) --- See DISCOGS --- Use the word EMI and see this: Label Code: LC 0542

Headline

Zwei Herzen im Dreivierteltakt ---> His Master's Voice

Die 20 schönsten Lieder der Meere


Isa

Traumland


Limbabwe

Für immer ---> EMI


Oldiesmann

Jetzt knallt's! Vol 10 ----> Electrola Media


walt

Tally-Ho!


PD

Record labels are an opinionable subject like almost everything.

That's why in most cases I've preferred that every editor, with the help of the image, draw their conclusions.

In very few cases I allowed myself the luxury of making a personal entry.

Last edit: 2020-08-27 17:06:47 UTC by dany

Clee J

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Clee J @ 2020-08-27 17:51:23 UTC

EMI Electrola deserves to be label as a label, especially with an undeniable history. We, as a company, need to take this carefully under consideration, even if it is a country sublabel.


No matter what happens, I'll be on the lookout for any further observation, if needed.


Strongly hoping this mess is immediately solved,

Clee J

Junior Editor