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Number of Works associated with Artist IPIs

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2021-01-02 18:14:58 UTC

IPIs are unique identifiers assiged to songwriters. We display them on artist profiles when available. What's new is that we now also display the number of works associated with each IPI.

See for example Clyde Otis :

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The IPIs 00018596950 1 work and 00023125923 42 works have (most likely) been imported via the PRO work codes.

The IPIs 00501651770 and 00039875926 have been added manually by editors, but are not associated to works in our database (yet). In the past, these IPIs were NOT displayed at all.

Bringing this to the attention of Mark_Heyrman , who has become our IPI specialist Wink

Last edit: 2021-01-02 19:39:00 UTC by Bastien

Mark_Heyrman

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Mark_Heyrman @ 2021-01-03 00:09:21 UTC

Ever since SHS displays the number of works associated with each IPI it is no longer possible to click / and view, on the PRO-buttons on the right side of the screen. When I want to look if a IPI-link stil is valid, it returns an error message. (See attachment)


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Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2021-01-03 06:26:59 UTC

Mark_Heyrman Care to give an example? I tried a few and it worked. I'm sure it's not related to this change.

Mark_Heyrman

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Mark_Heyrman @ 2021-01-03 10:10:01 UTC

This is only ONE example.

Also Kenny O'Dell:

00022682598 21 works

00040676490 2 works

00063601204 2 works

00269862314 3 works

Perhaps it's possible that those IPI's are no longer supported by ISWC-Network.

Which one did you checked?

Last edit: 2021-01-03 10:18:35 UTC by Mark_Heyrman


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Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2021-01-03 17:41:58 UTC

Iswc links are most of the time broken since a while. You need to go there manually.

Mark_Heyrman

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Mark_Heyrman @ 2021-01-03 18:31:55 UTC

Iswc links are most of the time broken since a while. You need to go there manually.

Then to be a little bit productive, one should know where the person's affiliation took place.

That's not evident knowledge.

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2021-01-04 10:30:08 UTC

This long list of errors is linked with the new function?

Stephen Foster

Wowwwwww

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72 of them

Yes, I believe the new setup allowed us to track these errors better.

This is because the IPI for traditional has been attributed to a bunch of normal artists. The number of errors grows exponentially with each artist added to the cluser.

Should be easier & faster to repair than it looks Wink

Mark_Heyrman

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Mark_Heyrman @ 2021-01-04 12:20:38 UTC

one should know where the person's affiliation took place

Not sure I understand what you are saying Mark_Heyrman ....?

When the PRO links are broken most of the times, then I need to look on other locations, one by one. It's obvious that one should first look on the site where the affiliation of the person took place. If you don't have this information, it takes more time to know/guess where to look.

EXAMPLE:

Pål Waaktaar (A-ha) -> is from Norway but his affiliation took place in the UK -> PRS

Charles Aznavour -> Armenian roots, lived in France but his affiliation took place in Switzerland -> SUISA

Last edit: 2021-01-04 12:44:49 UTC by Mark_Heyrman

Mark_Heyrman

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Mark_Heyrman @ 2021-01-05 18:32:17 UTC

IPIs are unique identifiers assiged to songwriters. We display them on artist profiles when available. What's new is that we now also display the number of works associated with each IPI.

Bastien Before we point us on the number of works, associated with each IPI, I suggest that we check if those IPI's still are active. Most of those IPI's are not, and that's why we get error messages when we try to open a view on these.

With my experience, only ISWC-Network and BMI combine active IPI's.

There (under View More) it's possible to detect the affiliations for each songwriter/composer/lyricist/arranger.

What's your opinion on this?

Last edit: 2021-01-12 20:33:08 UTC by Bastien

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2021-01-12 20:32:45 UTC

When the PRO links are broken most of the times, then I need to look on other locations, one by one. It's obvious that one should first look on the site where the affiliation of the person took place. If you don't have this information, it takes more time to know/guess where to look.

EXAMPLE:

Pål Waaktaar (A-ha) -> is from Norway but his affiliation took place in the UK -> PRS

Oh, now I see what you mean.

I don't think we store artists' affiliations, am I right Mathieu ?

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2021-01-12 20:34:08 UTC

Before we point us on the number of works, associated with each IPI, I suggest that we check if those IPI's still are active. Most of those IPI's are not, and that's why we get error messages when we try to open a view on these.

Example?

Mark_Heyrman

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Mark_Heyrman @ 2021-01-12 23:41:37 UTC

When the PRO links are broken most of the times, then I need to look on other locations, one by one. It's obvious that one should first look on the site where the affiliation of the person took place. If you don't have this information, it takes more time to know/guess where to look.

EXAMPLE:

Pål Waaktaar (A-ha) -> is from Norway but his affiliation took place in the UK -> PRS

Oh, now I see what you mean.

I don't think we store artists' affiliations, am I right Mathieu ?

Be careful with storing affiliations, because some artists have multiple affiliations;

Examples: Jean-Baptiste, Richard Cousins, Pam Sheyne, Jens Gad, Krist Novoselec, and so on.