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PRO code, and Bar code

EzraFD

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EzraFD @ 2021-04-15 09:54:30 UTC

Hello,


Can someone help me in defining these two terms?


I'm trying to submit an original song. It's from Victor Records, and was released in 1926.


Seeing that I'm not familiar with these terms, and it's also very dated, I struggle to find information about this on my own.


Thanks.


Kind regards,


Ezra

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2021-04-15 23:22:20 UTC

Hi EzraFD

Welcome to our website. The glossary should help you out. For a 1926 release, there won’t be an EAN. Just a cat number would do. You can search the ISWC repertory for the work’s PRO code though.

Sebastian

EzraFD

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EzraFD @ 2021-04-16 10:21:23 UTC

He Sebcat,


Thanks for the welcome, and the quick reply.


Thanks for providing a page containing the definition of certain, useful terms, however I looked up the page in your reply, but it's still not completely clear what I should be looking for, to find out this information.

I've tried Googling "ISWC/PRO code (etc.) [Title of song]", but I don't think it provides the correct information (partly(/probably) because I don't know what to look for).


Is it maybe possible for me to send you a webpage that I've found, which may contain the information I'm looking for, so you could "point it out"?


EzraFD

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2021-04-16 12:07:11 UTC

EzraFD you can search for the work at ISWC for its ISW code. Let us know if you can track it down.

EzraFD

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EzraFD @ 2021-04-16 12:13:09 UTC

Great, thanks a lot. Now I've found that it gives two ,separate, ISW codes, but at least I know what to look for now.

Is there a similar website foor the Bar code?

Ezra

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2021-04-16 13:34:15 UTC

Great, thanks a lot. Now I've found that it gives two ,separate, ISW codes, but at least I know what to look for now.

Is there a similar website foor the Bar code?

Feel free to provide both codes. It’s quite common for an older work.

For barcodes you can use ISRC for releases post-2010 (or slightly earlier), or just look at the back cover of the CD. Barcodes are generally only available for releases from the mid 1980s onwards.

EzraFD

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EzraFD @ 2021-04-16 16:25:38 UTC

Great! Thanks for the help! I got it to upload fine now. I did forget to add a release date, even though I am aware of it. It's possible to edit that myself, right?

Thanks again!

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2021-04-16 17:41:37 UTC

Great! Thanks for the help! I got it to upload fine now. I did forget to add a release date, even though I am aware of it. It's possible to edit that myself, right?

Unfortunately not. You can add the info by editing the comments field, but not other parts of the pro forma. Or you can withdraw and resubmit.

For your existing enter you haven’t provided any info about where and when the original was released. Was that deliberate? And you haven’t included any cover versions - again a prerequisite for a covers site.

EzraFD

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EzraFD @ 2021-04-16 17:49:46 UTC

Ah okay. This wasn't deliberate, because I do have information about the release date. So I'm sorry for that.

I also do know a song with the same name, of which I know it was deliberately the same title, but the music itself is not really similar (Just like there are, for example, 2 versions of the song "Moanin'").

Best would be to withdraw this current submission, and try again then.

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2021-04-16 18:22:51 UTC

Best would be to withdraw this current submission, and try again then.

Yes it’s better to complete as much of the pro forma as you can. And please provide links or attachments to confirm release info. But I would only do this if you have found a cover version. Without this we cannot enter it’s the database.

Oldiesmann

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Oldiesmann @ 2021-04-20 22:44:17 UTC

If the song is from 1926 it's almost guaranteed that there's a cover version given that the records were mostly made to sell the sheet music back then

David King

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David King @ 2021-04-20 22:46:49 UTC

If the song is from 1926 it's almost guaranteed that there's a cover version given that the records were mostly made to sell the sheet music back then

That's interesting, a little bit of musical history. I have to wonder if the general population were more inclined to study an instrument, than today.

Oldiesmann

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Oldiesmann @ 2021-04-30 03:28:21 UTC

Sheet music was a big seller at the time, so initially records were seen as a way to further increase sheet music sales. This practice continued into the late 40s or early 50s (even Managua, Nicaragua had 8 versions in a year's time, though the song largely faded after 1947)