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andregarcia

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andregarcia @ 2021-08-04 18:37:04 UTC

I want you to make me a list of songs in Spanish (preferably from Spain and from the 60s / 70s / 80s) that had versions in other languages by other artists, and also a list of songs that have been famous in Spain for their covers in Spanish but actually its original versions are in German, English, French, Italian, Portuguese, etc.

I am Spanish and I am very interested in this topic, sometimes I look for old German or French songs and I know them, but in Spanish, and I always look for what the original is (and many times the original is Spanish, surprising as it may seem to me, since Here in Spain we have the habit of thinking that ours is worthless and that it is not exported abroad and that we are the most copycat in Europe and that is not true, although there are also many covers as in any language)

If you find information, I thank you very much. Greetings from Spain to Europe and the USA

.Forgive my English, I have taken the Google translator and it is true that one of the defects of the Spanish people is their low level of English compared to the rest of Europe.

Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2021-08-04 19:35:40 UTC

Geez, maybe someone can tackle this, but I doubt it. I'm no expert at using the "Detailed Search" functions, but I was unable to come close to your request.


I was reminded of the discussion below:

https://secondhandsongs.com/topic/75717

Looks like another proposed enhancement that withered and died, but perhaps you can find out more regarding the status.

andregarcia

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andregarcia @ 2021-08-04 20:09:18 UTC

But I have also (and fundamentally) asked for Spanish songs covered in other languages, not just Spanish songs that are versions of songs in other languages.

Example that I already know and for which I have become fond of this:

Original in Spanish: Micky-El chico de la armónica

German version: Bernd Clüver-Der junge mit der mundharmonika.

A reverse case would be:

Original in English: Leapy Lee-Little Arrows

Spanish version: Karina-Las flechas del amor

What I ask is first, songs in Spanish covered in other languages.

Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2021-08-04 20:28:15 UTC

I understand your request, but I can see no way to sort for exactly what you want. For instance, I can search for Spanish works first released in 1960 (but not 196x), which returns 59. One would need to click on each return to see what's what.


I can also search for English works first released in 1960 (but not 196x), which returns 861. Again, one would have to click on each to see what's what.


I see no way to search for Spanish works originally released from 1960-1989 with one or more adaptions (in any language).


My best advice is to start with some major artists and/or songs (i.e. works) who/that likely have lots of translations. For instance Let It Be currently has 13 non-English adaptions, including Spanish. An example of an internationally famous Spanish work would be Quién será, which currently has 17 known non-Spanish adaptions.

andregarcia

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andregarcia @ 2021-08-04 21:27:28 UTC

There does not have to be an English version, since in English-speaking countries music in other languages is not well received, taking cases counted such as Macarena in Spanish, Voyaage Voyage in French or Lambada in Portuguese, which arrived at least to the top 5 in the USA.

There are many versions of songs between European languages, and in Europe Spanish music has been known and covered, as well as French and Italian.

For dates I'm going to make it easier for you, from 1970 to 1990.

You will surely find versions in many European languages.

Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2021-08-04 22:13:55 UTC

You don't seem to understand. There are surely many recordings/performances on site that meet your criteria. The problem is generating a list using the existing search function.


There's always a chance that someone much better using the search function will be able to do it. I doubt it, but will hope so for your purposes.

andregarcia

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andregarcia @ 2021-08-05 10:16:18 UTC

No, I did not understand it well, but surely there are a few

Last edit: 2021-08-05 10:30:48 UTC by andregarcia

Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2021-08-05 10:57:39 UTC

I have tried to explain the challanges to getting the list you want, but things seem to be getting lost in translation. I will start with an English saying: "It's like finding a needle in a haystack." In this case, SHS has tools to sort and pull a batch of needles (e.g. Spanish works first released in 1975) but we can't just pull those needles that also have some additional feature.


But that will have to be found on Discogs, right?


I doubt Discogs has a search feature that will just pull what you want either.


This is where you have to upload them if they are found.


No one "has to" add info from Discogs to SHS, but a lot is. This site is essentially a compilation of information found on other sites, including Discogs, iTunes, Spotify, 45Cat, etc.


But here are not even close to all the versions, you have to go to Discogs to find them.


I can assure you that there are many recordings/performances that meet your criteria on Discogs but not on SHS, and vice versa. I can also safely say that searching for what you want will be easier here (even if inefficient) than on Discogs.


Are you sure you are not a Spaniard disguised as a foreigner?


Positively not a Spaniard. Just a simple guy from North Carolina that speaks not a word of Spanish (though my sister speaks it and several other Romance Languages).


It seems strange to me that a foreigner has no interest in wanting to look at any country, every time it begins to seem more to me that you are a Spaniard who denies what is yours, like an ignorant one of those who voted for the government that is here or like those who live in the region of Catalonia, which are even believed to be from another nation.

I'm going to tell you a phrase in Spanish to see if you understand it and check if you are an anti-Spanish Spanish or if you are actually from abroad.

Vete a la mierda ,gilipollas.


I see no reason to insult the only active SHS contributor who (as of now) attempted to help you. I can also use Google Translator as anyone else can. The lack of an SHS search function that will yield a list of performances you want does not equate to apathy. The likely thousands of adaptions on site in languages different from the original song/work evidences the interest that the editors have in such recordings.


Searching "Spanish" in my personal notes returns over 1K recordings (which doesn't include assumed Spanish that are currently flagged as "Foreign"), and I am currently reviewing a number of confirmed/assumed Spanish versions of "Can't Take My Eyes Off You". This all also evidences my personal interest in non-English recordings of songs that are also popular in English. I admittedly have no personal interest in Spanish originals that are unknown to me in some English translation.


Upon that search of my personal notes, the first recording listed is a Spanish version of 1, 2, 3 Red Light by the Las Ventanas and released in 1969. I have no intention of creating and posting a list of all such recordings in my notes.

andregarcia

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andregarcia @ 2021-08-05 11:53:52 UTC

How have you been able to read the original message if I have deleted it because of the type of words with which I have referred to you without realizing it?

Ah, from the USA, you could tell, always so racist with everything that sounds like the Spanish language.

To begin with, I will tell you that I am a Spaniard from Spain (Europe, I don't know if you know how to locate my country on the map) not a Bolivarian Latin American of those.

To continue, I had already said that it was very difficult for the covers to be in English, they are valid for me in any other language, they can be versioned in Portuguese, Italian, or Swedish, or whatever.

It seems that you have not understood well my comment yesterday that in English it was difficult to have, and more likely in other European languages.

How closed are you Americans with respect to European culture (or anywhere else)

We are much more open with respect to the USA or Latin America, being European Spaniards.

Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2021-08-05 12:12:51 UTC

How have you been able to read the original message if I have deleted it because of the type of words with which I have referred to you without realizing it?


I had already read and hit the "Quote" button to respond.


Ah, from the USA, you could tell, always so racist with everything that sounds like the Spanish language.


Given your prior language and now "racist", I suppose that I am free to label you the idiot that I assume others have concluded as well. This thread has been viewed 77 times as of this response. Assuming ~25 are just the two of us, no responses from others suggests either a) they can't help any more that I can or b) they don't want to get involved.


To begin with, I will tell you that I am a Spaniard from Spain (Europe, I don't know if you know how to locate my country on the map) not a Bolivarian Latin American of those.


I can assure you that I know exactly where Spain is located. I am also somewhat familiar with the previously referenced Catalan independence movement (as well as the Basque), neither of which have anything to do with the purpose of this site. I have actually visited Barcelona and some Spanish islands. If you are looking for some stereotypical "dumb American", I'm afraid you have made a terrible choice. On the other hand, we do seem to have found another stereotypical crude and ignorant Euro.


To continue, I had already said that it was very difficult for the covers to be in English, they are valid for me in any other language, they can be versioned in Portuguese, Italian, or Swedish, or whatever.


Yes, and repeating such a statement does nothing to change the limitations of the SHS search functions.


It seems that you have not understood well my comment yesterday that in English it was difficult to have, and more likely in other European languages.

How closed are you Americans with respect to European culture (or anywhere else)

We are much more open with respect to the USA or Latin America, being European Spaniards.


You call others "racist" and the like, yet openly write this? I'm done; biting the hand that is attempting to feed you is never a wise course of action.

DashBoardDJ856

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DashBoardDJ856 @ 2021-08-06 01:04:06 UTC

This is the first time I read this thread, and wow, that took a wrong turn really fast.

Not sure if it was the Google translator or not.....but I was turned off as soon as I read, "I want YOU to make a list", instead of I want to make a list. Hopefully that was Google's mistake.

VV, you have the patience of Job.

(Spain is not located in South America???)

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Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2021-08-06 04:51:12 UTC

IDK DB, we could be looking at SHS executive management material here. My inability to provide the requested lists could easily be considered "not taking responsibility". My refusal to spend a crushing amount of time creating lists from my personal notes is clearly "inflexible". Finally, my pointing out the Spaniard from Spain's insulting choice of words is undoubtedly "divisive".

andregarcia

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andregarcia @ 2021-08-06 09:32:23 UTC

DashBoardDj856.

Spain is located in Europe.

We Spaniards went to civilize South America, and that is why Spanish is also spoken there.

But Spanish is from Spain, Europe

DashBoardDJ856

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DashBoardDJ856 @ 2021-08-06 11:41:58 UTC

Yes, I know where Spain is, I've also been to Barcelona, Madrid, and Toledo. My wife is from Chile. I also have all of my teeth.

I forgot, I've also been to Segovia, damn that was like 20 years ago.

Last edit: 2021-08-06 11:57:51 UTC by DashBoardDJ856

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Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2021-08-06 12:38:05 UTC

DashBoardDJ856 You're an embarrassment to American ed-gu-ma-ca-tion! Let me help with three little known facts about Spain:

a) The country's less mountainous areas get an inordinate amount of precipitation;

b) As a top vacation destination, even those who have never visited still like the music; and

c) While Spain has traditionally complained about the UK's presence in Gibraltar, it tends to be content with it's own enclave in Upper Manhattan.

DashBoardDJ856

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DashBoardDJ856 @ 2021-08-06 13:10:29 UTC

This is how Euros see us. Meet ya at the cement pond.


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andregarcia

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andregarcia @ 2021-08-06 20:12:20 UTC

DashboardDJ856,I was explaining it to you because you had asked me if Spain was in South America.

Let's see if you dare to give me information on the subject, since VirileVagabond is a bore.

There must be a lot of Spanish songs covered in other languages.

DashBoardDJ856

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DashBoardDJ856 @ 2021-08-06 20:45:50 UTC

OK, I think we have now entered the Twilight Zone.

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Tar Heel

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Tar Heel @ 2021-08-06 22:13:52 UTC

OK, I think we have now entered the Twilight Zone.


I know right? Let's be fair though, Language and cultural differences likely keeps our Spanish Spaniard from understanding that your "where's Spain" question was facetious and/or sarcastic.


I am starting to doubt whether truly Spanish. Where is the expected Latin charm and suaveness? Feels colder and harder German or Russian to me:

Give me fish!

I want fish!

No, don't teach me how to fish!

I demand fish!




andregarcia I can't say with complete confidence, but I suspect either DB can't help you anymore than I have tried to do or is unwilling to even try given his reaction to our earlier exchange.

DashBoardDJ856

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DashBoardDJ856 @ 2021-08-07 02:50:16 UTC

Oh you can certainly say it with complete confidence.

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