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Is it a medley when a song is sung in more than 2 languages?

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2025-05-08 13:47:25 UTC

Currently, to identify a performance as a mash-up, editors have to click on medley, which then switches changes to mash-up.

A simple way of implementing the cases discussed here would be to add both bilingual and multilingual to this existing procedure.

There would be no automation, but up to the editor to click 2x or 3x to get bilingual and multilingual respectively.

Thoughts ?

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2025-05-08 19:17:54 UTC

There would be no automation, but up to the editor to click 2x or 3x to get bilingual and multilingual respectively.

Thoughts ?

I’d have thought it was fairly simple to automate. But your proposal would certainly work as a manual alternative.

David King

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David King @ 2025-05-09 03:02:37 UTC

It looks like a decent alternative.

Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2025-05-12 14:29:31 UTC

Currently, to identify a performance as a mash-up, editors have to click on medley, which then switches changes to mash-up.

Click on medley? I thought it was adding a tag "mash-up"?

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2025-05-13 08:10:24 UTC

Oh, that's right : When you add the mash-up tag, the automated medley tag disappears.

Either the behaviour changed, else I wrongly remembered it.

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2025-05-13 19:37:16 UTC

Either the behaviour changed, else I wrongly remembered it.

The latter Smile always been this way.

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2025-05-22 13:28:29 UTC

Ok, so the proposal becomes:

When you tag bilingual, the medley tag disappears

Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2025-06-02 12:28:06 UTC

Wouldn't it be an option to only show "medley" when the different parts of a performance have different root works? No tagging needed then.

It would also solve hypothetical cases where you combine two translations in the same language.

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2025-06-02 23:58:14 UTC

Wouldn't it be an option to only show "medley" when the different parts of a performance have different root works? No tagging needed then. It would also solve hypothetical cases where you combine two translations in the same language.

As long as we can still automate the creation of a bilingual or multilingual tag in such cases.

Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2025-06-04 09:59:07 UTC

Why would you still need those tags?

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2025-06-04 17:55:00 UTC

Why would you still need those tags?

To indicate where a song is sung in two or more languages. Just like the “medley” tag currently but for languages.

Mathieu

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Mathieu @ 2025-06-09 07:35:32 UTC

Can you be more specific about what you would like to show where and when? I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.

sebcat

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sebcat @ 2025-06-09 23:47:46 UTC

Can you be more specific about what you would like to show where and when? I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.

The Girl from Ipanema - instead of the medley tag on the performance page and in the version list, it would have a “bilingual” tag. Basically when you have a song involving two parts both connected to the same root work and in different languages.