Youtube videos wrongly used

From time to time, when trying to add a video when submitting a cover I get the answer that that video is already in use for that same song. But he reality is that the cover is not in SHS. This means that the Youtube video was wrongly used beforehand. How is it possible to locate such a mistake?

An example, when trying to add Ainhoa Arteta - Smells like teen spirit (not in SHS)

was not accepted.

Normally it means that there was a cover incorrectly submitted as a web-cover Tunesmith as was the case here - Smells Like Teen Spirit.

The best way to handle in the future is to report an error against the web cover. We can then convert into a standard submission. If you submit separately then there’s a risk of a duplicate submission in the database.

Pardon my ignorance, but how does one report an error against a web cover?

Please use my example.

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Pardon my ignorance, but how does one report an error against a web cover?

Please use my example.

Sorry but I don't follow you. To report an error I must be where the error is. And that was my initial question: How to get to the post where the youtube video was used by mistake, preventing me to use it where it should be.

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To report an error I must be where the error is. And that was my initial question: How to get to the post where the youtube video was used by mistake, preventing me to use it where it should be.

The error is that a performance was improperly added as a "web cover" here: Smells Like Teen Spirit ..., so one would click the Report Error button as one would under a regular performance.

There are a number of problems with the current SHS policy of favoring the error report over a proper submission in this type of situation, but that's a different discussion. Nevertheless, the biggest problem is that filing a report on a web cover doesn't trigger the creation of a Discussions tab as opposed to other SHS entries exampled here: Wer fragt nach mir .... This means that contributors can't (at least readily) tell if a report has already been filed.

It's of course a personal decision, but due to the lack of a Discussions tab and editors rejecting the resulting duplicate reports, I no longer file them.

Back to where I started it.

Would someone, please, locate the wrong use of this video and correct the situation, so I can use it where it belongs?

As this situation is happening more often, I think something is wrong with the system itself.

I was reviewing the song "I'd fight the world" and realized that Hank Cochran had no Youtube video. I chose the first choice up on the screen and was refused because it had already been used for that same song. This time it was easy to confirm, because there were only seven entries with a Youtube video. None was using it.

What now?

I've had this situation as well, and it also baffles me.

Would a quick answer be for the error report that a video is already in use to include a link to the performance using that video? That way, if the video is on the wrong performance, or if a web cover has achieved an "official" release, it can be flagged and addressed without asking people to poke around until they figure out something which the database clearly already knows.

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Would a quick answer be for the error report that a video is already in use to include a link to the performance using that video? That way, if the video is on the wrong performance, or if a web cover has achieved an "official" release, it can be flagged and addressed without asking people to poke around until they figure out something which the database clearly already knows.

Good suggestion if feasible. Mathieu ?

I'm not really sure what the problem is here. The error clearly states "This external recording is already added as web cover for work Smells Like Teen Spirit".

Go to the web covers section of the work Smells Like Teen Spirit and you'll see

At the moment is not possible to provide a link in "inline" errors like this one:

I'd have to come up with a way to make this possible. However, in this case it was very easy to find the offending web cover.

Go to "I'd Fight the World." Tunesmith reported that he tried to add a video but was advised that it was already in use for that work. But there are no web covers listed, so your explanation for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" wouldn't seem to apply.

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Go to "I'd Fight the World." Tunesmith reported that he tried to add a video but was advised that it was already in use for that work. But there are no web covers listed, so your explanation for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" wouldn't seem to apply.

I suspect the error message was different JeffC as in this case it's due to an older unavailable video, and nothing to do with web-cover.

Last edit: 2023-08-30 09:20:54 UTC by sebcat

Odd as it may seem the 11 tracks 1956 Duke Ellington LP "Duke Ellington Presents" had only two covers submitted when I got to it.

Well, Cotton Tail couldn't be used (an original in 1940) but that belongs in Duplication Blues.

But many where available and I posted six.

Then came another episode of the saga. I wasn't allowed to use the Youtube video for Summertime for It had already been used by someone for that particular song.

There are 2229 covers for Summertime. It would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Someone keen to do it?

What is the exact error message?

This external recording is already added as web cover for work Summertime

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There are 2229 covers for Summertime. It would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Someone keen to do it?

It wouldn’t be in the main list of covers Tunesmith . It would be on the list of web covers so much easier to find. Now converted to a submission - Submission #161744.

In Duke Ellington covers, when I last saw, there wasn't a single one for Summertime. Now there are three by the same member, one of them with the video I required. I wonder where those ghost submissions came from once they were posted last year?

Things like these make submitting more complicated.

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In Duke Ellington covers, when I last saw, there wasn't a single one for Summertime. Now there are three by the same member, one of them with the video I required.

I'm going to tidy things up a bit Tunesmith