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Dime La Verdad

Submitted by

Mike Dennis

On August 24, 2009

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Dime la verdad

By Marta Sánchez

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14%

Processed by

Bastien

On August 22, 2011

Created performance

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Additional comments and sources

Artist : Marta Sanchez

Written by : Christian De Walden - Max DiCarlo - Margaret Harris - Carlos Toro Montoro

Language : Spanish

Released on the album "Mi Mundo" ('95, Polygram)



covered by : Yasmine

cover title : "Kikkerkoel"

(Dutch translation : Penny Els)

-- released as a single in 1996 ; and on the album "Prêt-à-Porter" ('97)

History

Comment by Bastien
2011-08-05 20:38:16 UTC

Written by : Christian De Walden - Max DiCarlo - Margaret Harris - Carlos Toro Montoro


Source for the composers/authors?

 
Comment by Mike Dennis
submitter
2011-08-20 14:17:56 UTC

Source for the names of the composers of "Dime La Verdad" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi_Mundo




Mike Dennis.

 
Comment by Bastien
2011-08-21 14:21:17 UTC

Hello Mike,


For authors and composers, we consider the following to be the most trustworthy sources:


http://www.secondhandsongs.com/wiki/Main/Bookmarks


Can you find confirmation over there?


Bastien

 
Comment by Mike Dennis
submitter
2011-08-21 14:35:53 UTC

hi there,


went to the SHS bookmarks and under "Covers" you have a listing for "The Originals" -- the link isn't working, if you mean the site "The Originals" by Arnold Rypens, then this is the source for the composers of "Dime La Verdad" :


http://www.originals.be/nl/originals.php?id=11484



Mike Dennis.

 
Comment by Bastien
2011-08-21 18:57:42 UTC

Hello Mike,


Thanks for reporting this, I have now corrected the link to "The Originals".


But actually, there is a misunderstanding. I was talking about the links under "Composers and Authors".


Bastien

 
Comment by Mike Dennis
submitter
2011-08-22 10:49:05 UTC

hi Bastien,


found a link under BMI :


http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=T…


composer Carlos De Montoro is missing, but maybe he isn't a member of BMI




Mike Dennis.

 
Comment by Bastien
2011-08-22 12:48:56 UTC

Hi Mike,


This is indeed what I meant. Usually BMI is very accurate.


Authors don't need to be members of BMI to be credited for a song. More likely, he's offcially not a composer/author of "Dime la verdad". This seems to be confirmed by for example GEMA:


DI CARLO, MASSIMILIANO 00336358944 composer

HARRIS, MARGARET VICKIE 00074298059 composer

WALDEN, CHRISTIAN DE 00076579527 composer

DI CARLO, MASSIMILIANO 00336358944 author

HARRIS, MARGARET VICKIE 00074298059 author

WALDEN, CHRISTIAN DE 00076579527 author


https://online.gema.de/werke/detailPage.do?dbkey=27600328&title=DIME+LA+VERDAD&p…


Conclusion: In SHS, we will not credit De Montoro for this song.

 
Comment by Bastien
2011-08-22 21:31:02 UTC

The original is now added to the database: Dime la verdad


I listened to Yasmine's song, and it is indeed the same song. Do you have confirmation about the lyrics by Penny Els? Sabam probably?

 
Comment by Mike Dennis
submitter
2011-08-23 17:57:02 UTC
 
Comment by Bastien
2011-08-24 13:52:27 UTC

can't seem to find my way around on the SABAM site


This is the link you need: http://www.sabam.be/pls/apex/f?p=113:1:3098863837570040

 
Comment by Mike Dennis
submitter
2011-08-24 17:05:06 UTC

hi Bastien,


ah the wonderful word of originals.


Thanks for the SABAM link. It clears up a whole lot.


Martha Sanchez and "Dime La Verdad" comes from the Album "Mi Mundo". But at the same time she also released an English version of that album "My World"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi_Mundo.


And now it's gets interesting !!


On the English album version "Dime La Verdad" became "Such a Mystery", and the song seems to have been written first, before the Spanish translation -- that's why on the "Dime la Verdad" version there's the added name Carlos Toro Montoro -- he did the Spanish translation of the song !!


English version by Marta Sanchez :



and for the Penny Els info :

Tongue3_ID,P3_WRK_ID_AV:4327090,NULL&cs=387B6A5AEE724DFF4C8B54AC6AEA029C9">http://www.sabam.be/pls/apex/f?p=113:3:3098863837570040::NO: Tongue3_ID,P3_WRK_ID_AV:…




Mike Dennis.

 
Comment by Isa
2012-07-08 08:29:51 UTC

Added Kikkerkoel.

 
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