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Vocalese, vocalise and scat

VirileVagabond

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VirileVagabond @ 2020-11-16 02:53:05 UTC

I used to add AMG links to the external links

To use yet another strange saying: I may be standing on the wire, but what's an AMG link?

Btw., there are some who don't even start doing x...


AMG = All Music Guide: https://www.allmusic.com/


People can never start doing x for the same reason(s) people stop doing x. I won't start adding vocalese, et. al. tags for the same reason I stopped adding AMG links, namely the applicable site guidelines are overly complex and/or restrictive for me to bother.

Bastien

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Bastien @ 2020-11-16 13:08:32 UTC

Welcome to the discussion Pommel , and thanks for your question. You can't see the tags, because they can only be applied AFTER an entry has been processed.

Which is...kind of confusing :-)

Yes, I understand. Might be useful in a future upgrade to be able to select tags while submitting a cover song. Now you have to come back to tag it, that's not very convenient.

VirileVagabond

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VirileVagabond @ 2020-11-16 15:15:16 UTC

Might be useful in a future upgrade to be able to select tags while submitting a cover song. Now you have to come back to tag it, that's not very convenient.


This has been previously suggested by myself and others several times. Currently, the best practice is to note any tag info (e.g. live recording) in the original submission....

mduval32323

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mduval32323 @ 2020-11-21 15:55:32 UTC

To me the two most important things not in the Performance submission form 1) check box for LIVE tag which is checked quite often; and 2) check box to show performer alias. #2 is a big deal because you have to go to the artist page into the Alias section to check this box and it would be much simpler to just check it as you are submitting.

I don’t think the other Tags are used enough to warrant having them in the Performance submission form

Last edit: 2020-11-21 16:01:43 UTC by mduval32323

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VirileVagabond

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VirileVagabond @ 2020-11-21 16:15:31 UTC

To me the two most important things not in the Performance submission form 1) check box for LIVE tag which is checked quite often; and 2) check box to show performer alias. #2 is a big deal because you have to go to the artist page into the Alias section to check this box and it would be much simpler to just check it as you are submitting.

I don’t think the other Tags are used enough to warrant having them in the Performance submission form


Won't argue about any of this other than perhaps the alias. Seems like auto-adding a tag during processing is far less material than auto-creating a new alias. As things are now, I will typically submit under the primary artist name and add in the submission (e.g.):

Artist styled as: [alias]

mduval32323

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mduval32323 @ 2020-11-25 01:29:47 UTC

I would stick to referring to them as AllMusic...AMG is a rather common acronym and the site isn't well known by it either. Now Rate Your Music could be shortened to RYM is so desired.

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camembert electrique

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camembert electrique @ 2020-11-25 01:57:16 UTC

I just added Cold Duck Time, which features instrumental(ized) non-verbal lead vocals by Les McCann. So, what kind of vocalxxx do others think this is?

Scat? The vocals are of non-language nature and seem improvised, but may as well have been rehearsed...

Vocalise? The vocal melody is pretty much according to the work's lead one...

Vocalese? The original is both an instrumental and a Jazz song...

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camembert electrique @ 2020-11-25 02:02:13 UTC

I would stick to referring to them as AllMusic...AMG is a rather common acronym and the site isn't well known by it either. Now Rate Your Music could be shortened to RYM is so desired.

I don't see the word Guide anywhere on https://www.allmusic.com , but RYM for Rate Your Music (another site of inconsistent quality) is indeed quite common.